Will Ruger incorporate any of the American rifle design features in the Mini 14?

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I think it would help the Mini 14 if Ruger would use some of the design features of the American series rifles.

The improved trigger and interchangeable stocks with differing combs would be nice to see on the Mini 14, as would a threaded barrel. Ruger should also drop its proprietary scope mount, and put picatinny rail on it instead.
 
Well, they did the Mini-14 Tactical and put about as many AR style features on it as practical, including the picatinny rail, the 1/2"-28 threaded barrel, and an AR-buffer-tube style adjustable stock. It may not have adjustable comb height, but one that does could just be popped on the tube. They already addressed accuracy also. I'm not saying it's at the level of a top-notch barrel on a custom AR build, but the whole rifle sells for less than the price of a really accurate barrel and people still complain about the price too.

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Will Ruger incorporate any of the American rifle design features in the MIni 14?

Yes. No. Maybe?

I have a mini and it's a good little rifle. Nice to have for people that don't want to shoot scary black rifles... But my left over parts bin AR is more accurate as is pretty much any AR that is properly built. When the prices were inverse, then it was a heck of a good rifle. But with prices what they are now, I just don't see the appeal. Especially if one that is trying so hard to be an AR but not actually achieving it, like that Tactical Mini.

But, that is the beauty of this whole thing. You can buy what you like and be happy, and I can do the same. And neither has to make sense to the other.
 
Im sure they are only keeping it in production as a hedge against AR bans. Indeed, Im surprised they havent introduced a fixed-magazine version that top loads via stripper (or en-bloc :D) clip.

Such a rifle would be so featureless as to avoid anything short of a complete prohibition on self-loading rifles. Block off the gas port, and you could even easily turn it into a manually operated repeater.:(
 
I am not a fan of making the Mini 14 look more tactical. Ruger shouldn't try to have the Mini 14 compete with the AR. The Mini 14 should be taken in a different direction. I would emphasize its historical connection to the M-14. I would market it as more of a compact ranch/farm rifle that could be used for home defense if needed as opposed to trying to make it uber-tactical.

Really, I think a better trigger and a better way to mount optics than the proprietary Ruger mount would go a long way.
 
They already addressed accuracy also. I'm not saying it's at the level of a top-notch barrel on a custom AR build, but the whole rifle sells for less than the price of a really accurate barrel and people still complain about the price too.

Where are you buying Mini-14’s for under $500? Or what $1000 AR barrels do you think are required to beat a Mini for precision? ‘Cuz this is upside down in a big way.

For the last few years, I see Mini’s at $800-900 on the rack, $1000 at the chain stores now. On this date, the Ruger site doesn’t show any Mini-14, Ranch, or Mini-30 model below $999. Only 2 models at $999, two or three at $1169, and half a dozen between $1000-1100.

Alternatively, I typically buy two or three AR-15 barrels which will shoot sub-MOA for $800-1000. The only time I slip into $450-500 is when I order fluting or custom cerakote options. For “using rifles,” I typically pick up barrels at $300-350 street price, BEFORE my volume/dealer discounts.

The Mini accuracy “problem” isn’t really “fixed.” It’s certainly “better” than it used to be, but if the yardstick with which they’re measured is the typical precision of competing products in the market around them instead of just the abysmal precision of their past, they still aren’t “fixed.”

Picatinny base options for the Mini have been widely available for a long time, and tends to be a welcomed addition to fit the objective bell over the heat guard. A cheek riser might be nice, but it’d add further cost. It might seem logical that they integrate their shim set into the Mini, but you’re really talking about a broad gap between how they are marketing the American vs. the Mini’s now. The Mini’s are effectively a (relatively) highly featured line, not the everyman’s rifle, while the American, obviously isn’t meant to be such - it’s the rifle for every American. Similar to the comparison for AR-15 barrels above, a guy can buy 2-3 Americans for the price of the Mini, so throwing a cheap American feature on the Mini would be out of place. A more refined version adds cost to an already high-cost model line.

I sure wouldn’t mind seeing a Mini with no sights, pic rail in the box (D&T’d preferably), semi-bull barrel, an updated gas block dimension to facilitate a larger minimum diameter, a wider forend and an adjustable cheek rise stock - especially if it would deliver 1/2-3/4moa. Until then, I’ll buy and use Mini’s as range toys and “something different,” and focus my time serious shooting time upon different products.
 
Maybe expanding into more of the AR chamberings would be interesting. So far all I have heard of is .300 Blk. Myself and a select minority of others would be very intrigued by a 450 BM option. It would be like the Deerfield Carbine on steroids.

But alas, it would still probably be inferior to an AR version in every way aside from aesthetics.
 
I was thinking about getting a Mini 14 as a lightweight carbine to carry as I walk through the woods and around edges of fields on my farm for use in case I see a coyote or other varmint. But I think all things considered, I will get a Ruger American Ranch instead. Trigger is better, I think it will be more accurate, it uses AR mags, and is about a pound lighter. The only advantage of the Mini in this setting would be faster follow up shots, but that is not as important as hitting where I shoot the first time and weight.
 
I always liked the aesthetics of the mini ranch rifle, I had a mini 30 and loved it but I sold it because it would only be 100% reliable with prvi ammo. I think like others said, upgrade the accuracy and trigger. If they did that and stuck to their original look of the rifle and were able to keep cost in check it would probably be a better seller.
I know alot of folks dont care for polymer synthetics and tacticool and prefer a nice wood finish, I would like one again sometime in the future but I cant justify spending a grand on something when PSA entry level builds can surpass mini accuracy...
 
Maybe expanding into more of the AR chamberings would be interesting. So far all I have heard of is .300 Blk. Myself and a select minority of others would be very intrigued by a 450 BM option. It would be like the Deerfield Carbine on steroids.

But alas, it would still probably be inferior to an AR version in every way aside from aesthetics.

There was a 6.8SPC target mini I remember seeing.

I would enjoy a 350Ledgend ranch rifle. I think the cartridge and platform would be a good match. Not a lot of apendegs to snag on brush like an AR, handy and a good short/ medium range deer cartridge.

Not sure I'd drop 1k+ on one though.
 
Personally I wouldn't expect much change in the Mini 14. The gun was improved after 2004 and the AWB died with a better barrel and a slightly beefed up receiver. I think they could do a little more quality control and work on improving accuracy but beyond that, what you see is what you get. What you get is as good and more accurate rifle than the ones Ruger put out in 1977. The Mini 14 successfully escaped the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 because it was/is not an EBR. If another ban should occur I think you will no longer see black poly stocks, 20 round magazines and they will be all in wood. I see the Mini 14 as Rugers fall back position should the politics in America go far left. They will have a traditional looking semi auto available for public consumption that has stood the test of time.
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I don't see a lot to change on the Mini-14 that isn't already available - at least not without making it a completely different rifle. IMHO the only thing it needs from the basic config is a pistol grip stock. I did that myself with one of the out of production Choate stocks. The one above is OK and works but I hate that so many guns are just slapping on an empty AR-15 buffer tube so that it uses AR stocks. It might allow more options but it causes every gun to look the same.

It's not my gun specifically but this is the stock I run on mine. And if the mood strikes me I still have the original stock around if I want to swap back :).
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There was a 6.8SPC target mini I remember seeing.

I would enjoy a 350Ledgend ranch rifle. I think the cartridge and platform would be a good match. Not a lot of apendegs to snag on brush like an AR, handy and a good short/ medium range deer cartridge.

Not sure I'd drop 1k+ on one though.

I'd buy a .357 Magnum Ranch Rifle in a heartbeat. Ten-round mag and all.




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