Makin' 30 & 32 Remington Brass

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RockinDaddy

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This is a terrific site! I recently traded for a Remington Model 81 Woodsmaster in 30 Remington caliber. Just traded a couple hundred dollars worth of parts that had been kickin around the repair shop when I had an FFL. Problem was: where do you find ammo??? Was looking on the Highroad post board somewhere and someone posted that there was little difference in 30-30 Winchester ammo and the 30 Remington except the 30-30 was rimmed and the 30 Remington was rimless. The shoulder on the 30 Rem was slightly different from the 30-30. The guy who traded the Model 81 gave me a box of factory 30 Remington. Got out the micrometer and started measuring. Wow !!! What similarity!

Took the 30 Remington and ground a piece of high speed tool steel to conform to the head of the 30 Remington. Stuck my 30-30 sizer die in my lathe and drove a once fired 30-30 case in the die tight with a soft hammer. Proceeded to machine the rim off of a 30-30 once fired case till it matched the 30 Remington case head. Drove the newly turned case out with a piece of 1/4" steel rod through the headstock of the lathe. What a cupcake! Sprayed a little water soluble oil to keep my tool from galling on the soft brass!

Found I had a pile of 30-30 Winchester brass. Sight in day before PA deer season at my local gun club always left a good supply of brass on the ground. Before I knew it I had three boxes of turned 30-30 brass into 30 Remington. Ordered a set of RCBS 30 Rem dies. Turned out several test boxes of ammo. The stuff went through the ole' autoloader great! Since it is a magazine fed autoloader, spire pointed 150 gr bullets fed great!

It would be easy to make 32 Remington the same way! 32 Winchester Special will work too!
Included a few photos of the new 30 Remington ammo!
 
I picked up some reloading stuff at a flea market and there was a set of 30 remington dies in the mix.
 
I have a Rem Model 14 pump in 32 Remington. I got my dies from Redding about 3 years ago and they cost me about $89 at that time. I just looked at their dies online, and they are $144.25 now. I thought $89 was bad. Three years ago Redding was the only die maker that listed 32 Rem. I was lucky and found 3 boxes of new un-primed empties at a Cartridge Show in St. Louis for $10 a box. I also got 4 boxes of shells with the rifle. My rifle was made in 1927, and the chamber is long. When shooting some of the original shells, the primers backed out from .004 to .014. I had to fire form the brass with MBC 32-40 coated bullets and Trail Boss powder. Once fire formed I just size the brass enough to have the neck hold the Speer 180 grain bullet tightly.
 
I hate to spend that much money for a set of dies that will not be used that much.
I did pick up some old boxes of old loaded 32 Remington ammo. But would like to get the dies to play some with this gun.
 
They kind of have you over a barrel on the dies there. You said you have 30 30 dies. Use those to resize and get a shellholder to fit might be an option. But you are going to work the neck/shoulder a lot more and it will fail there sooner. Just thinking out loud here.
 
Trivia Alert:
Ca 1950 when Remington was preparing for a new target-varmint round, they considered necking down the .30 Rem to .224", which would have been a rimless Zipper or Wasp, depending on the length and shoulder chosen. But they concluded that the draw blanks for .30 came out too thin in the head web for the pressures envisioned. So they made up an all new cartridge from scratch, the .222.
 
I guess if you have the time and don't mind the way the case heads look or having incorrect headstamps. Grafs has .30 & .32 Rem brass in stock; even if I didn't mind wrong headstamps (which I do), if my machines aren't saving me at least $1 for every minute I'm using them on something like that, it ain't worth my time. But then, reloading in general isn't worth my time from an economic standpoint, just that some of the cartridges/loads I use can't be had commercially.
 
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