Glock 29 or Glock 30?

Glock 29 or Glock 30?


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Well it didn’t take long for the cast lead in glocks myth to rear it’s head. Use a hard alloy and you’ll be fine.
That has not been my experience.

And further research on leading will likely show that fit is far more important than hardness to prevent leading. In fact hard alloys may lead MORE because they obturate less and seal less effectively. That is not a myth.
 
That being said reloads are a no-no in the glocks unless you get a replacement barrel.

Don't tell any of the competitive USPSA or IDPA shooters who have put tens of thousands of their own reloaded rounds through factory Glock barrels without blowing up.

Basically every manufacturer will say "don't use reloads," because they don't want to deal with someone's reloading mistake. Rather than needing to prove (or convince the customer) that it was their triple charge of Titegroup that kaboomed their gun, they can just say "Reloads - we said 'no,' warranty is over, keep your ER bill."
 
Thank you all so much. A lot of fine ideas and suggestions. I spend a good bit of time in the western North Carolina mountains. The black bears can get large there.

Also go to Santa Fe, New Mexico and Tucson to visit cousins every few years.

Decided to get the 10mm. They are both fine guns, but as someone said, we all need a 10mm at some point!

I already have the .45 ACP in the Glock 36.
Now need to find a suitable holster for the gun.

Leaning towards Milt Sparks in Boise, Idaho, who does good work if you can wait awhile.
 
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Thank you all so much. A lot of fine ideas and suggestions. I spend a good bit of time in the western North Carolina mountains. The black bears can get large there.

Also go to Santa Fe, New Mexico and Tucson to visit cousins every few years.

Decided to get the 10mm. They are both fine guns, but as someone said, we all need a 10mm at some point!

I already have the .45 ACP in the Glock 36.
Now need to find a suitable holster for the gun.

Leaning towards Milt Sparks in Boise, Idaho, who does good work if you can wait awhile.

Well...

Be sure to have ear-pro during that bear attack.

Not so much the 5.3" .45 ACP.

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GR
 
45. Even if you are awash in cash and unconcerned about the price of ammo, you can get 45 ACP anywhere that sells ammo, and usually with many choices. While I am no expert regarding bears, I observed black bear hunting guides in Maine-except for 2- carrying some type of 45 ACP for putting down wounded bears. I would hope they know what they are doing. As far as the 2 who carried something else- one carried a 12 gauge riot gun because he said he is awful with a pistol. The other carried a 9mm. The one with the 9mm did put down a wounded angry bear that had clumb up a tree, BTW.
 
I would just add if you go with loads at the upper end of 10mm, practice with them. Don't want to get a heavy, bear-stopper and then shoot over the charging bears head.

Also, an aside, I have had at least 10 bear encounters, within charging distance, along with cougar, canine and moose, and I have never had to shoot.

Awareness, responsiveness, and well-trained dogs go a long way.
 
I have two 30's and they're about the only Glocks I still use.

That said, if it were me I would definitely get the 29's whether or not I already had the 30's

IMHO 10mm is a much more versatile cartridge, especially if you reload.
 
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Well it didn’t take long for the cast lead in glocks myth to rear it’s head. Use a hard alloy and you’ll be fine.
no, i'm not going to use a hard alloy (whatever the heck that means, since you didn't specify the hardness) bullet. the lead bullets I use are probably 18 bhn and lead up the stock barrel fairly quickly. the alpha wolf barrel does fine with lead bullets leaving a trace of lead like a barrel should. and the leading is not an issue if you clean your barrel. this is my experience with my glock 30, your mileage may vary.

the issue here is the full case support of the alpha wolf barrel.

murf
 
Which rig did you go with? Looking for something for my 29. Thanks

I went with the runners kit bag. Unfortunately right after I bought it I developed a stress fracture that has kept from hitting the trails to test it. I've been in the pool and the weight room, but am hoping to get out again this fall.

For the belly band / G43 I have a pair of ComforTac ones that I rotate through. Those have thousands of trouble-free miles on them. Ready my review here from when I first got them. It still holds true today.
 
Make sure to consider the "X-Grip" so that you can run G20 mags with better comfort. I have the G30 and tend to run with G21 mags most of the time.
 
Thank you. Will take that under advisement!

KKM also make the 41 Match 10MM 6″ conversion Bbl. for the 5.3" G41 .45 ACP., and, along w/ an OEM 10mm mag, would really give you outstanding 10mm performance to supplement std. and +P .45 ACP.

This is the std. 5.3" conversion Bbl.


Have a 4" G23.4 .40/180 gr., as well as a 5.3" 357Sig Bbl that I shoot HDY Custom 147 gr.XTP out of.

Great combination as well.




GR
 
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When I was at the local gun shop and the owner was telling me he had couple boxes of 10mm commercial loaded ammo and a bunch of reloaded ammo, good loader, great price, there was this little voice in my head saying, no-no-no, don't buy the reloads, no-no-no don't buy the reloads. I didn't listen, never again. I shot a box of the Fiochii I believe it was with no issues before the reloads, but as I said, the second round of the reloaded box resulted in a kaboom. As I said it cracked the frame, blew the magazine out the bottom and part of the safety fell softly on top of my hand, but one finger got cut and hand hurt like the devil! The remainder of the round was jammed in the slide. I eased the slide back and the round fell out and apart. The rim was sheared like someone took a can opener to it and cut it from the casing in a perfect circle except on one side where the shell casing had started to come apart like a zipper. I still have it in a sandwich bag saved in my desk at home. Should have listened to that voice. The shop owner felt awful and asked me to toss the rest of the reloads, sent the frame back to Glock on his dime and gave me $100 store credit.

Wait a minute there.

Lead projectiles should be limited with a stock Glock barrel because they use polygonal rifling. That type of rifling can lead to heavy leading in a barrel. That's why an aftermarket barrel using traditional rifling is recommended for anyone who plans to shoot lead or hardcast lead bullets out of a Glock. Reloading has nothing to do with it. Yes, some reloaders use lead or hardcast bullets when reloading, but it's the bullet type that can cause problems, not the fact that the cartridges have been reloaded.

If the second round of reloads blew up your gun, then that was clearly a double charged or overcharged round, and it doesn't matter if the rounds you were shooting came from a "reputable reloader" or not. There's no way two rounds of lead bullets could blow up a gun. It was clearly a double or over charge situation. So bottom line, whomever loaded those cartridges screwed up.

There's a reason that reloaders have a rule that states "Never shoot someone else's reloads." You just don't know what mistakes they may have made.

Shooting reloads in a Glock, or ANY gun is perfectly safe if you yourself have loaded them with good methodology and care, worked up the load for YOUR gun, and used published reload recipes with the same components. If not the exact same components, work up the load. If shooting the same cartridge in a different gun, work up the load.

If given reloads from someone else, pull the bullets and weigh them, dump the powder, and reload them with a powder charge you have data for, and work up the load.

There are all sorts of copper platted, copper jacketed, and monolithic solids that are great bullet choices for 10mm auto and 45 acp both, and perfectly safe for a Glock be them reloaded by a guy in his attic like me, or made by a major manufacturer. But if I hand you some reloads I made, you should not shoot them. You have no idea if I'm a competent loader, and even if I am it doesn't mean I didn't make a mistake.
 
Make sure to consider the "X-Grip" so that you can run G20 mags with better comfort. I have the G30 and tend to run with G21 mags most of the time.

I have one of these for a G26. I found that once I took my pinky out of the equation when shooting subcompacts I no longer needed sleeves and had an easier time shooting flush mags. Fortunately that also holds true for the G29 with full house underwood. I'm not a big guy either, <150 lbs depending on how many cups of coffee I've had on a given morning.
 
Thank you all so much. A lot of fine ideas and suggestions. I spend a good bit of time in the western North Carolina mountains. The black bears can get large there.

Also go to Santa Fe, New Mexico and Tucson to visit cousins every few years.

Decided to get the 10mm. They are both fine guns, but as someone said, we all need a 10mm at some point!

I already have the .45 ACP in the Glock 36.
Now need to find a suitable holster for the gun.

Leaning towards Milt Sparks in Boise, Idaho, who does good work if you can wait awhile.

If you have a 36 and are buying a 29 ,
Slip the 36 slide on the 29 frame .. Get a 30 or a 21 mag ... And you have a 30S

Western NC and East TN both have big Black bear ... Underwood make a 10mm load that I like for woods carry in my 20 & 29 useing a 200gr XTP bullet
 
That has not been my experience.

And further research on leading will likely show that fit is far more important than hardness to prevent leading. In fact hard alloys may lead MORE because they obturate less and seal less effectively. That is not a myth.

I must have the exception that proves the rule, or I know how to cast the right alloy and properly lube and size them.

And I never, ever, post any sort of reloading data. That's my business for my guns. If you want reloading and casting information there are many good books on the subject.
 
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I must have the exception that proves the rule, or I know how to cast the right alloy and properly lube and size them.

And I never, ever, post any sort of reloading data. That's my business for my guns. If you want reloading and casting information there are many good books on the subject.
Don't know why you're getting your parties in a bunch... don't recall anyone asking you for any reloading data.

And you "never, ever, post any sort of reloading data" but you have no problem posting a very sweeping, potentially problematic reloading generalization such as "Use a hard alloy and you’ll be fine."

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