Monarch 7.62x39 with Silcone in hollow point verse 4 water bottles

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Wow! these rounds :eek:are hot! silcone seem to inprove the energy realese too see those bottles rip apart, primmers on these are flat and my sks firing pin pushes threw them the 124 grain i couldnt find the bullet any where it appears to be intact on exiting the 3rd bottle, so it didnt fall apart
 
With no punctuation, it is difficult to figure what you are trying to communicate.

The one phrase that jumped out to me was “ ...the primers were flat... “. That indicates high pressure. If it is a hand load, back off the powder at least 10% and work up a safe load.

Kevin
 
StrawHat said:
With no punctuation, it is difficult to figure what you are trying to communicate.

The one phrase that jumped out to me was “ ...the primers were flat... “. That indicates high pressure. If it is a hand load, back off the powder at least 10% and work up a safe load.

Kevin
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no they are factory loads from monarch seems to be :eek:over loaded cases from russia with love :D
 
I agree they are hot. Very accurate from every rifle I've shot them from too. They are hell on feral pigs.
 
if you wanna catch bullets with natrual media, shoot thru one jug into soft sand or dirt. it will usually give you an idea on expansion, tho it's far from scientific.
I'm not actually sure how strong the sks lockup is, the engagement surface seems kinda small to me, tho I never measured it. I think I'd save the Monarch for that new 7.62x39 bolt action you want:neener:
 
the sks is pretty strong, those are hot for that rifle. other rifle it may show less psi, plus that silicon added some weight to the bullet increasing pressure. new firing pin may help with the pin punchering the primer. you can have the strongest rifle in the word and a pierced primer is still not a good thing. wet paper works good for catching bullets.
 
LoonWulf said:
if you wanna catch bullets with natrual media, shoot thru one jug into soft sand or dirt. it will usually give you an idea on expansion, tho it's far from scientific.
I'm not actually sure how strong the sks lockup is, the engagement surface seems kinda small to me, tho I never measured it. I think I'd save the Monarch for that new 7.62x39 bolt action you want:neener:
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my mac 90 /ak will be ok with them i assume will test them out in a few weeks with it, the yugo pushes in hard on my brown bear ammo to i dont use it in it eithier now
 
LoonWulf said:
if your getting deep indentions on both brown bear and monarch, your firing pin maybe too sharp, or your primers are setting back
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brown bear and monarch are made in the same russian ammo plant btw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnaul_Cartridge_Plant
  • MONARCH (Academy Sports) – Barnaul currently makes the steel-cased ammunition for Academy Sports' MONARCH brand. (Academy Sports is an American purchasing and importing group that buys foreign made ammo and resells it under their brands at their own chain of stores).
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i bet they use the same soft primmers
https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2018/12/12/first-look-barnaul-rifle-pistol-ammunition/
In fact, though not sold under the Barnaul name, ammunition produced by Barnaul has been seen in the United States for some time under several different brand names. Marketed under the Academy Sports Monarch name, Barnaul's steel-cased ammunition has been sold in the company's stores. So, too, is the Bear Series of ammunition produced by Barnaul, including lacquer-coated Brown Bear, zinc-coated Silver Bear and brass-coated Golden Bear steel-cased offerings.
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LoonWulf said:
if you wanna catch bullets with natrual media, shoot thru one jug into soft sand or dirt. it will usually give you an idea on expansion, tho it's far from scientific.
I'm not actually sure how strong the sks lockup is, the engagement surface seems kinda small to me, tho I never measured it. I think I'd save the Monarch for that new 7.62x39 bolt action you want:neener:
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note slam fires are from soft primmers found this, i suspect that my yugo with a chinnese steel firing pin really has issues with any barnaul primmer
ive had 2 slamfires in my SKS with barnaul
none with wolf
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https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/barnaul-7-62x39-vs-wolf-7-62x39.60929/
 
saiga308 said:
note slam fires are from soft primmers found this, i suspect that my yugo with a chinnese steel firing pin really has issues with any barnaul primmer

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/barnaul-7-62x39-vs-wolf-7-62x39.60929/
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agreed, which is why most of us who reload for the x39 in SKS looked hard at the murrays firing pin conversion. I loaded a few hundred x39 for my sks with cci 200, but i was always very careful of where that gun was pointed when chambering and shooting.

piercing is usually a symptom of a larger issue, which CAN be addressed to a degree with a harder primer, BUT its usually not the underlying cause.

my 700 in 6x47 will pierce primers on anything that resembles a hot load unless i run magnums, or other harder/thicker cupped primers. the root cause is an oversized firing pin/hole. my options were bush the firing pin hole, or swap to a large primer case.....So im building a .375 raptor.
 
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Newtosavage: Your comments will hurt the image of Russian ammo always being of low quality.

It will also hurt the feelings of the US ammo manufacturers' lobby, which would love to see all foreign ammo get banned. Banned? Like the anti-Second Amendment people.....? ;)
 
Just speakin' the truth.

Only downside I've seen with the Monarch stuff out of my bolt guns was the coating on the bullets will oxidize if they get any moisture near them. Still shoot okay, but look like hell. But that's easy enough to avoid if you don't get your rounds wet.
 
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