Finally the truth, Joe Biden admits he wants to confiscate guns - "BINGO"

In other news, water is wet.

I'm glad it's out in the open at least.

And he's the least radical one of the bunch ...


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elizab...eases-plan-to-tackle-gun-violence-2019-08-10/

Well we have know for around 10 years he believes that all we should be allowed to have is a shot gun. Just 1, per household it would seem.

Oh yes use NFA, and there are how many suppressor on the NFA registry?
Way, more, probably up to a thousand times as many now compared to before putting them on NFA and most of those have been added in the last 20 years.
There are 1.3 million on there now, a few years ago it was 1 million.
So much for taxing them out of existence.

Biden is a dumb ass. "You can't have a flame thrower". Bitch flame throwers are considered "air guns" under federal law. This idiot has no idea what the law is. They are perfectly legal to own in 48 states.
"You can't have a bazooka" yeah you can. Might not be able find any ammo for it these days.
But in new mexico if I had $12,000 to blow I am very sure I could get an rpg7 and ammo.

Well, yea, it's like saying water is wet. But we'D best do what we can do keep all the antigun politicians out of office, or we'll be drowning in gun bans and red flag laws and other attacks on our rights.

I wonder if they, Biden’s party, remembers what happened in the mid 90’s?

I wonder if “we” have the juice to repeat what happened in the mid 90’s?

That truly concerns me...do we have the juice?...

Pat Riot said:

I wonder if they, Biden’s party, remembers what happened in the mid 90’s?

I wonder if “we” have the juice to repeat what happened in the mid 90’s?

That truly concerns me...do we have the juice?...

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Remember that it was led by the NRA !

Notice how Biden makes it very clear that "you" are who he is coming after "if you have an assault weapon." He does not even suggest that lawful gun owners must concede some rights for the "greater good" or to somehow make us all more secure from the suicidal-homicidal maniacs. He simply declares that all you lawful gun owners are exactly who he's targeting. He doesn't say, "mentally unstable, convicted felons, red-flagged people, people convicted of domestic violence, drug users... and so on, shouldn't be able to buy certain weapons." He says YOU shouldn't be able to buy certain weapons.

Here is where gun rights advocates have been getting it wrong for too long. Too many gun-rights advocates continue to allow all these different classes of people to be demonized, because they think, "I" should be able to buy "certain weapons" but that there are some "other people" that shouldn't be able to buy "certain weapons." If you think that way, the only difference you have with Joe Biden has to do with what classes of people you think "shouldn't be able to buy certain weapons." Go ahead. Tell me who you think shouldn't be able to buy certain weapons. Who are you willing to throw to the confiscators and say "them, but not me"?

They ALL want to confiscate guns from anyone they don't control. Any claim to the contrary is at best a delusion, at worst a monstrous lie.

The gauntlet is off! They have made it perfectly clear the anti-gun issue is at the top of the list of things to do if elected. The ball is in our court now and there won't be a 2nd chance if we get it wrong. A couple of links in the bulletin put out by the Legislative Director of the Texas State Rifle Assn. today. Well worth the read and a couple of useful links:

Texas State Rifle Association



Dear TSRA Members, Family and Friends:


DO Something-Even if it's Wrong

Yes, even if the do-something-change has nothing to do with the tragedy and could not possibly impact the crime.

Layer Upon Layer of State and Federal Law

Dealing with Firearms and Ownership

When I became TSRA's lobbyist in 1998 I asked my late-husband "What if I find laws are missing". The "smartest man I ever knew" answered simply by smiling and saying "Let me know!".

No Law Is Missing

To this day, it's still my approach to media-covered murders. I want to know the details about the perpetrators, the tools used to commit the crime, the source of those tools and the general background. To date I have found nothing missing in law and no consistency other than gender. Not age, not ethnicity, not income, not background or religion, not even political affiliation and definitely not mental health issues. Unless you want to list Evil as a mental health condition.

And yet there are those who continue to insist a style of firearm or a background check is the "answer" in their common-sense world.

Records from as early as 1984 list multiple mass shootings and the term "going postal" came from before that era.

A reporter recently asked me how many guns I own. I answered twenty or more and he made a face.

I asked him how many screw drivers he owns. Guns are simple tools.

Division of Party Politics

Twenty years ago guns started to become political token, targeted by the press. The push continues to teach the unknowing public that there are no gun laws, no regulations.

If you say a lie often enough .... Is it Truth?

During the Obama administration, VP Biden suggest that the only firearm anyone needed for self protection is a shotgun.

Not long after the Biden comment, Aaron Alexis, fatally shot 12 people inside one of the most heavily secured military properties, the Maryland Naval Yard. He walked in with a shotgun and a common caliber handgun. He was a black man driving a Prius.

Evil People

The list has grown but must include the Boston Marathon bombs made from pressure cookers and the Oklahoma City bomb made from fertilizer and on and on.

In 1999 Columbine High School students, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, were on juvenile probation for theft. Their probation officer and friends knew about their hate-filled webpage but no one acted. The two teenagers built pipe bombs in the garage and the firearms were meant to be secondary. Both boys came from middle class families, one family was retired military and the other is written about as a Lutheran family of pacifists.

The Virginia Tech perpetrator, an under-graduate student, had been ordered into treatment for a severe anxiety disorder by the courts. The court ruling was not entered into the NICS System and Cho was able to purchase two common caliber handguns, a month apart as per Virginia gun control laws. Cho's family was South Korean.

If you are a gun-bigot with no knowledge, use or respect for firearms, as the simple the tools they are and if you want a simplistic way of dividing political parties, then terms such as Gun Control or Gun Violence are for you.
But if you truly have "common sense" and you research the basis and background for each historic event, you will find laws were broken, warning signs were ignored, and evil won the day.

Members of the Texas State Rifle Association

As voting, law abiding gun owners, we strongly oppose adverse changes to existing law. We oppose Universal Background checks. We oppose creating new Red Flag Laws when we know existing Texas law allows law enforcement action during a mental health crises. There can never be a loss of rights without "due process".

We oppose all outrageous changes to State Law and to Federal Law at the highest level.

Do Something? Yes, hold those accountable for ignoring current law in order to be elected or re-elected.

First the Second..... Then the First


Tell Your US Senators and Congressmen No New Gun Control Laws


Go to www.tsra.com and to www.tsrapac.com or call TSRA's office at 512-615-4200.

If your group needs a speaker, give us a call!

Stay tuned for a new voice for TSRA!

Keep the faith
Alice Tripp
Legislative Director
Texas State Rifle Association

NRA state affiliate

100 yrs and growing


Quick Links

Who Represents Me

TSRAPAC

TSRA
Founded in 1919

Regards,
hps

I was TSRA for many years. Now I'm in Tennessee:

https://tennesseefirearms.com/

This needs to go viral !

I wonder if they realize they are actually playing with fire.

Deanimator said:

They ALL want to confiscate guns from anyone they don't control. Any claim to the contrary is at best a delusion, at worst a monstrous lie.

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YES . Emphasis, ''They ALL''

The problem is two fold, devil you know, devil you don't know. Or , the devil you didn't know was going to act...devilish until, after the election(s). I speak of our current so-called ''Pro 2A advocates'' in the house & senate, now imitating the POTUS, who is directly imitating...Biden, Warren ''Stands With a Degree'', the Irishman from TX, et. al.


Don't weary about those who are not in office as long as those that ARE in fact in office, are doing the bidding of those campaigning for the same office.

I mean, when will it become, ''you don't need to vote for them, 'cause I M doing what they are saying...vote for me'' ????

hps1 said:

They have made it perfectly clear the anti-gun issue is at the top of the list of things to do if elected.

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This is not happening in a vacuum. The politicians are responding to what they see as a grass-roots call for more gun control. If you want to place the blame for this, blame our fellow citizens rather than the politicians. In turn, the attitudes of our fellow citizens are formed by what we, as gun owners, are or are not doing. The failure of self-policing on the part of the gun community is what has brought this on ourselves.

AlexanderA said:

This is not happening in a vacuum. The politicians are responding to what thy see as a grass-roots call for more gun control. If you want to place the blame for this, blame our fellow citizens rather than the politicians. In turn, the attitudes of our fellow citizens are formed by what we, as gun owners, are or are not doing. The failure of self-policing on the part of the gun community is what has brought this on ourselves.

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Yes, a certain amount of blame can be placed at the feet of gun owners, however, one must realize that what "they see as grass-roots call for more gun control" is in reality nothing more than the product of the media, who control/publish the polls (at the behest of the anti's) to support their agenda.

Indeed, we are ALL tired of the senseless violence being perpetrated nation wide, but it will not be resolved by passing more laws restricting only LAW ABIDING gun owners.

A very thoughtful post from another forum points out the fallacy of gun control as a solution to what the media at the behest of the anti's have come to call "gun" violence:

"I think Joe Biden said it best in a recent quote, "we chose truth over
facts." I do not think that is a Joe-ism, I think that they really do choose "truth" over facts. Truth is what you make it. But facts are facts.

The left, or anti-gunners of any persuasion for that matter have a problem with correlation and causation.

FACT: You cannot have "gun" violence without a gun.
FACT: Guns do not CAUSE gun violence.

Yes, there is a correlation with guns and gun violence and that is the use of the gun in the violent act. Removing the gun does NOTHING to stop violence, only gun violence. That is a correlation. Effecting one variable does not necessarily mean that the other variable will be equally effected.

There are many, debatable possible causations for gun violence and THOSE are what need to be examined. THAT is what freaks out the left. With so many possible variables causing violence how can we ever stop it? The short answer is, you can't. Violence is rooted in human behavior. You will NEVER be able to fully stop violence. So what if you remove guns, you cannot and will not stop violence. Because guns do not cause violence.

The single biggest mass murder event in the US in a school was committed using a bomb NOT a gun. Where is the call for bomb control?"


The problem is in the "what they see". In this day and age, polls are written, by those with an agenda, to fit their narrative and it is not hard for them to put their thumb on the scales to tilt the results.

Regards,
hps

bds said:

So WILL of the majority being imposed on the RIGHTS of the minority is OK?

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Your beloved Trump is doing the same thing that the antigun politicians are doing. That is, he figures that he has more to gain by mollifying suburban soccer moms by backing universal background checks and "red flag" laws, than he has to lose by alienating gun owners. Whether or not that is objectively correct is beside the point; what's important is that he thinks that's the calculus.

That's the way our system works. The minority can only frustrate the will of the majority for a limited time. If that were not true, then we would have a perpetual tyranny of the minority.

AlexanderA said:

Your beloved Trump is doing the same thing that the antigun politicians are doing. That is, he figures that he has more to gain by mollifying suburban soccer moms by backing universal background checks and "red flag" laws, than he has to lose by alienating gun owners. Whether or not that is objectively correct is beside the point; what's important is that he thinks that's the calculus.

That's the way our system works. The minority can only frustrate the will of the majority for a limited time. If that were not true, then we would have a perpetual tyranny of the minority.

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We all are quick to judge; and, as we have seen in the past, first impressions are not always correct. Perhaps it is a bit soon to judge president Trump's "deals" before the final proposal is made. Remember his first comments after the last episode were quite different than the final proposal from the author of "The Art of the Deal".

Regards,
hps