Leather vs. Kydex/Synthetic

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I love steel, wood and leather, but the fact is kydex is usually cheaper, every bit as durable (if not more durable), more resistant to moisture and lighter.

There are times when kydex is simply preferable, as AK103K describes. I can’t think of any scenario where leather is clearly better unless you’re talking aesthetics.
 
I can’t think of any scenario where leather is clearly better unless you’re talking aesthetics.
As Paul Gomez comments in the video linked earlier, leather typically has a retention advantage (caveat - as long as we're talking quality products, and open top holsters, not active retention devices).

The kydex retention point is only about a 1/4" of travel, once the gun is past that point, the gun practically jumps out of the holster. Leather has retention over a longer distance.
 
As Paul Gomez comments in the video linked earlier, leather typically has a retention advantage (caveat - as long as we're talking quality products, and open top holsters, not active retention devices).

The kydex retention point is only about a 1/4" of travel, once the gun is past that point, the gun practically jumps out of the holster. Leather has retention over a longer distance.

That’s fair.
 
I can’t think of any scenario where leather is clearly better unless you’re talking aesthetics.
Leather is more comfortable, that's pretty universal.

Leather does not destroy the gun's finish like Kydex does.

Leather holsters are not assembled with screws.

Weight is a complete and total non-issue. The leather holster of my most-used carry gun is a whopping 2oz.

IMHO, the only positives about Kydex is that it's a cheap material to buy, requires a lot less work to manipulate and it's moisture proof. For me, those would never outweigh the cons.
 
Leather is more comfortable, that's pretty universal.

Neither are uncomfortable if done right in my experience.

Leather does not destroy the gun's finish like Kydex does.

Lol what? If you mean it doesn’t leave the exact same wear marks, then ok. If you’re saying it doesn’t wear a finish, you’re simply wrong.

Both wear a finish if you use them long enough.

Leather holsters are not assembled with screws.

Ok? Any particular reason this is an issue for you?

Weight is a complete and total non-issue. The leather holster of my most-used carry gun is a whopping 2oz.

Interesting anecdote with a sample sample size of one.

IMHO, the only positives about Kydex is that it's a cheap material to buy, requires a lot less work to manipulate and it's moisture proof. For me, those would never outweigh the cons.

And that’s perfectly fine, that’s why both are available.
 
If you mean it doesn’t leave the exact same wear marks, then ok. If you’re saying it doesn’t wear a finish, you’re simply wrong.
I think I was pretty clear about what I meant.


Ok? Any particular reason this is an issue for you?
Yeah, stitching doesn't back out and allow parts to fall off.


Interesting anecdote with a sample sample size of one.
Yes I think I'm more than a little familiar with the subject.

http://www.sixgunleather.com


And that’s perfectly fine, that’s why both are available.
I didn't say they shouldn't be an option. I just take issue with advantages that are more imagined than real, while ignoring the disadvantages.
 
its a mixed bag for me depending upon what I'm wearing. I have leather OWB and Pocket holsters. I have kydex/leather IWB holsters.
 
I think I was pretty clear about what I meant.

Maybe you think you were, but I’m not seeing it. You literally said “leather does not destroy the gun’s finish like kydex does”. Bottom line is both wear a finish over time, end of story. So either you’re being obtuse or just wanting to argue semantics. Either way, let’s just say you win and move on.

And am I supposed to care about wear pattens on a carry gun? Wear happens with use, there’s no avoiding it.

Yeah, stitching doesn't back out and allow parts to fall off.

Like most things, a little care and maintenance prevents such things from happening. It takes 30 seconds to check screws.

And while my own anecdotal experiences mean little to nothing, I’ve never had this happen to me once.

Yes I think I'm more than a little familiar with the subject.

http://www.sixgunleather.com.

Ah, so you’re clearly unbiased in the matter...

Beautiful work though, I’ll readily admit that.

I didn't say they shouldn't be an option. I just take issue with advantages that are more imagined than real, while ignoring the disadvantages.

Just because you view things as a disadvantage doesn’t mean others do. I don’t care about wear patterns, have no issues with screws and see no appreciable difference in comfort.

You do, and that’s ok. We can agree to disagree.
 
wait a minute, wear patterns? on a carry gun? this is a concern? LOL.
 
Interesting anecdote with a sample sample size of one.
Yesterday I weighed a holster I'm almost finished with. It's for a 9.5" Single Six and it weighs a whopping 4.5oz. That's a lot of 8-9oz leather. So again, weight is meaningless.


Maybe you think you were, but I’m not seeing it. You literally said “leather does not destroy the gun’s finish like kydex does”. Bottom line is both wear a finish over time, end of story.
I was crystal clear, you are being obtuse. I said leather does not DESTROY a gun's finish. Kydex does. Of course any holster is going to wear the finish but with leather, it happens slowly over time. Maybe that doesn't matter to you. It 'may' matter to others. I would wager it matters to more folks than it doesn't. Either way, this is a disadvantage that you are ignoring, whether intentional or not.


And am I supposed to care about wear patterns on a carry gun? Wear happens with use, there’s no avoiding it.
As above, you may not care, others do. It is obvious to me that the only purpose for which you carry a sidearm for is personal protection and you obviously use a generic polymer framed auto for this purpose and don't care about finish wear. You also assume that all others carry for the same purpose. While others carry for other reasons, whether while hunting or general purpose use in a rural setting. In which case I'm not carrying an LC9 but a revolver. A revolver that may be 50-100yrs old. Or a high dollar custom. Or engraved. Or stocked in $1000 worth of ivory. Out of the 70+ revolvers I own, I can't think of one that I have no regard for its finish.


Like most things, a little care and maintenance prevents such things from happening. It takes 30 seconds to check screws.
If you're okay with checking the screws on your holster, that is fine. I am not. If I was getting my holsters wet constantly, I may wish to make that concession but that would be the only circumstance for which I'd even consider it.


Ah, so you’re clearly unbiased in the matter....
I am biased but not just to justify my leather work. If I thought Kydex was actually better, I could make those a whole lot easier than leather. It ain't. So I don't.


Just because you view things as a disadvantage doesn’t mean others do.
Back at ya. The important thing here and the purpose for my rhetoric here is to clearly outline advantages and disadvantages. Not espouse advantages while ignoring disadvantages.
 
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wait a minute, wear patterns? on a carry gun? this is a concern? LOL.
You do realize that not everyone carries a polymer handgun for concealment, right? Some of us carry other guns for other purposes and no less often.

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This 50yr old Single Six looks no worse than it did when I got it. Despite having over 30,000rds through it and countless miles riding in a pigskin lined leather holster.

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You do realize that not everyone carries a polymer handgun for concealment, right? Some of us carry other guns for other purposes and no less often.

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This 50yr old Single Six looks no worse than it did when I got it. Despite having over 30,000rds through it and countless miles riding in a pigskin lined leather holster.

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I guess I should have clarified what I meant by carry gun. I mean ccw on the streets.
 
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