sparkyv
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Anyone have one or tried one? I hadn't heard about it till just this week.
New Wildcat .22 LR Rifle
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troy fairweather
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Have not heard of seen anything,
Read an article and walked away going....well why?
It loads like a 10/22....but is not. So why would I buy this and not a 1022....they are pretty close in price, and the Ruger has aftermarket support out the butt. It is not (in my eye) good looking.
I see nothing it brings to the table over the ruger....but still uses the ruger mags.
If you like that system just buy the ruger.....if not look at something else.
It loads like a 10/22....but is not. So why would I buy this and not a 1022....they are pretty close in price, and the Ruger has aftermarket support out the butt. It is not (in my eye) good looking.
I see nothing it brings to the table over the ruger....but still uses the ruger mags.
If you like that system just buy the ruger.....if not look at something else.
GunnyUSMC
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I think it's pretty interesting.
The take down is very easy and makes cleaning very easy, and it light weight under 3lbs.
Looks like Winchester put a lot of thought into this little rifle.
The take down is very easy and makes cleaning very easy, and it light weight under 3lbs.
Looks like Winchester put a lot of thought into this little rifle.
Jeb Stuart
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I like it, Nice and light. Makes a lot of sense for hiking, camping, bug out etc. Like the firing system. I would compare it the Henry Survival as well.
https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/henry-u-s-survival-pack/
https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/henry-u-s-survival-pack/
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Pat Riot
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I wouldn’t compare it to the Henry in regards to the sights or the magazines. The sights on the Henry aren’t all that great. The front sight can be pushed around in the dovetail with finger pressure. The rear sight is a peephole that is rudimentary and non-adjustable.
EDIT: I was / am wrong! The rear sights are adjustable. Please see Jmorris’ post on page 3.
The sights on the Winchester are steel. Though I do not know how well the adjustments work on the rear.
The Henry magazines are 8 round versus the stock Winchester mag of 10 rounds. I am assuming that 10/22 stock rotary mags will work. Though the Henry mags are much more pocket friendly.
I own a Henry and a 10/22 and perhaps I may get one of these Wildcats. If they made a Takedown version that would clinch it for me.
EDIT: I was / am wrong! The rear sights are adjustable. Please see Jmorris’ post on page 3.
The sights on the Winchester are steel. Though I do not know how well the adjustments work on the rear.
The Henry magazines are 8 round versus the stock Winchester mag of 10 rounds. I am assuming that 10/22 stock rotary mags will work. Though the Henry mags are much more pocket friendly.
I own a Henry and a 10/22 and perhaps I may get one of these Wildcats. If they made a Takedown version that would clinch it for me.
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fireman 9731
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That front lower picatiny would be great for a light for around the house/farm pest control. Might make a dandy little utility gun for me. I would like to see one in person.
George Dickel
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I like that it has a peep rear sight, with old eyes typical open sights don't work well for me. Seems well thought out with some nice features but I'd like to see and feel one before final judgement.
midland man
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i like it but how much is it gonna cost at Walmart??
If1HitU
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I haven't seen one in person,the one on the pic looks nice GunnyUSMC post.
Jim Watson
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FYI Henry is just the latest of several makers of the AR-7, an even earlier design than the Ruger.
P.S. TC is making a Ruger clone... or mutant.
P.S. TC is making a Ruger clone... or mutant.
Speedo66
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I'd suggest the stainless take down Marlin Papoose. Proven action, accurate, not bad looking, 10 round Marlin and reliable 25 round aftermarket mags available.
GunnyUSMC
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I checked with my local gun shop yesterday and it appears that they are not available yet, but should sell for around $240.
Here are the things I like about the rifle.
It looks good.
Built in sling mounts.
Easy mag release.
Last round hold open with factory mag.
Easy bolt release.
East and quick take down.
Can clean barrel from the chamber end without having to remove the barrel.
Will that 10/22 mags.
Metal sights.
Scope rail on top and a rail section at front of stock.
I think Winchester has a winner with this little rifle.
I hope so. it's neat collection of ideas.
I'd like to see an option with a none cut out monte carlo style (or a simply higher comb) stock for scope use.
Time will tell....but it is a very tight market.....with the 800lb gorilla that is the 1022.....the old standby in the 60.
Why would you choose this over a plastic stocked 1022? Not looking to start an argument (well maybe a little) but really why......and you guys know I am no 1022 fan, but even I would opt for a Ruger before this.....there is just so much more movement with the ruger platform.
Why would you choose this over a plastic stocked 1022? Not looking to start an argument (well maybe a little) but really why......and you guys know I am no 1022 fan, but even I would opt for a Ruger before this.....there is just so much more movement with the ruger platform.
chicharrones
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For someone that wants a simple auto-loader that they have no intention to modify, and for whatever reason they don't want a 10/22?
Sometimes people just want something out of the mainstream. The 10/22 is probably the firearms definition of mainstream.
Of course, all this assumes the new Winchester works well and shoots well.
Skylerbone
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I would buy one for the 2 lbs. it saves over the Ruger. Selling price is less than the U22 Neos Carbine Kit which I would gladly buy if it were still available to have a 3.5lb rifle. There is often wariness in trying something unproven even when it looks to be a solid choice. Unfortunately I need another rimfire like Dolly Parton needs bigger... I also have a line 4 deep with other rimfires I plan to acquire before I want to stop again and ask; do I have enough already?
Both good points.....but again....why take the chance on an unknown animal.....It reminds me of the question I brought up in the pistol rifle thread....why not a 9 or 45 lever.....the answer is why bother. It seems to me that this is a why bother.
I see it not as different....still the "guts" of a 1022.....we will just need to see.....I don't see it as special enough to make it stand out....hope I am wrong I would like to see new product take off....but what is new here?
I see it not as different....still the "guts" of a 1022.....we will just need to see.....I don't see it as special enough to make it stand out....hope I am wrong I would like to see new product take off....but what is new here?
DM~
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I like it's features, IF it shoots well, I'll probably pick one up.
It shouldn't be TOO difficult, for it to shoot as accurate as a 10/22!
DM
It shouldn't be TOO difficult, for it to shoot as accurate as a 10/22!
DM
kBob
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I have yet to see one.
read some reviews of poor accuracy...and others of decent accuracy....ammo choice? stock to barrel tension? shooters?
Folks plastic ain't new remember that failure that critics complained about being plastic over half a century ago the Nylon 66 from Remington?
Guts of a 10/22???? The Wildcat is striker fired!!!!! The 10/22 uses a hammer.
yes the wildcat uses 10/22 mags, all or them, they are available and work. Next folks will complain about all the .223/5.56 rifles that use AR15 mags!!!! I might say that early on much of the bitching about the AR15 was about its magazines....yet here they are though modified played with and made in differing materials (recently bought an absolute dog that made me appreciate even early aluminum 30 rounders with aluminum crud growing inside) Looks like whine the Wildcat will feed with Ruger mags that they may not function the bolt hold open and that Winchester's internals on the mag and method of disassembly are different.
lets just chill on the complaints until "we" get one in hand shall we?
Things I wonder.... can it be stored with the stock off the barrel and receiver and if so how long is that package and how high.
what might eat or mar the stock or trigger mechanism housing. If I like to tinker is there anything I CAN do to the firing mechanism or bolt? Will replacement parts be available if I do so anyway and bugger things up?
as to the AR7 the original featured a pep sight that was elevation adjustable. One loosened a screw and slid the peep up or down and when it was made most everything adjusted for windage by adjusting the front sight. EVERYONE got it close, learned their sights and did the Kentucky windage dance
kBob
read some reviews of poor accuracy...and others of decent accuracy....ammo choice? stock to barrel tension? shooters?
Folks plastic ain't new remember that failure that critics complained about being plastic over half a century ago the Nylon 66 from Remington?
Guts of a 10/22???? The Wildcat is striker fired!!!!! The 10/22 uses a hammer.
yes the wildcat uses 10/22 mags, all or them, they are available and work. Next folks will complain about all the .223/5.56 rifles that use AR15 mags!!!! I might say that early on much of the bitching about the AR15 was about its magazines....yet here they are though modified played with and made in differing materials (recently bought an absolute dog that made me appreciate even early aluminum 30 rounders with aluminum crud growing inside) Looks like whine the Wildcat will feed with Ruger mags that they may not function the bolt hold open and that Winchester's internals on the mag and method of disassembly are different.
lets just chill on the complaints until "we" get one in hand shall we?
Things I wonder.... can it be stored with the stock off the barrel and receiver and if so how long is that package and how high.
what might eat or mar the stock or trigger mechanism housing. If I like to tinker is there anything I CAN do to the firing mechanism or bolt? Will replacement parts be available if I do so anyway and bugger things up?
as to the AR7 the original featured a pep sight that was elevation adjustable. One loosened a screw and slid the peep up or down and when it was made most everything adjusted for windage by adjusting the front sight. EVERYONE got it close, learned their sights and did the Kentucky windage dance
kBob
kBob
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Fireman 9731,
"That front lower picatiny would be great for a light for around the house/farm pest control."
yes my first thought on seeing that was the cheap light weigh "useless" UTC plastic bipod for day light and a cheap one inch multiple LED flash light or older CR123 battery xeon lamp from the old junk drawer in a scope ring for checking on the chickens at night. Looks handy.
-kBob
"That front lower picatiny would be great for a light for around the house/farm pest control."
yes my first thought on seeing that was the cheap light weigh "useless" UTC plastic bipod for day light and a cheap one inch multiple LED flash light or older CR123 battery xeon lamp from the old junk drawer in a scope ring for checking on the chickens at night. Looks handy.
-kBob
I am not hating on this thing.....I am also not taking it in a dark room to do some lovin on it like some here seem to be.
What does this bring to the table that other things do not bring to the table already....and more better....you want to hang all kinds of stuffs off of it.....any of your AR 22's will likely fit the bill....and likely you already own it.....or perhaps one of the rugers you already own will fit the bill.....or that old stock you have for that one 1022 build that is hiding behind your pinball machine (that is where mine is)....dig it out and bingo....all kinds of places to hang stuff.
I get need has zippo to do with it....being someone that just bought 4 new guns today (wife is going to kill me....this may be my last post....and no cheering) I totally get need has nothing to do with it.....but there has to be something that says to a guy that is sitting on 3 automatic 22's or the guy that is looking for his first 22 rifle.....that thing is going to have to say HAY....LOOK AT ME....AIN'T I ____________ cool, accurate, cheap, aftermarket support, like dear ole dad had.....something. I could see a "new" 1903....or to the other end something really off in left field....but this is pretty middle of the road....pretty safe....and really does not (to me) say.....HAY BUY ME INSTEAD OF ___________.
Personally I would take a 1022.....and you know how I feel about that platform....over this.
What does this bring to the table that other things do not bring to the table already....and more better....you want to hang all kinds of stuffs off of it.....any of your AR 22's will likely fit the bill....and likely you already own it.....or perhaps one of the rugers you already own will fit the bill.....or that old stock you have for that one 1022 build that is hiding behind your pinball machine (that is where mine is)....dig it out and bingo....all kinds of places to hang stuff.
I get need has zippo to do with it....being someone that just bought 4 new guns today (wife is going to kill me....this may be my last post....and no cheering) I totally get need has nothing to do with it.....but there has to be something that says to a guy that is sitting on 3 automatic 22's or the guy that is looking for his first 22 rifle.....that thing is going to have to say HAY....LOOK AT ME....AIN'T I ____________ cool, accurate, cheap, aftermarket support, like dear ole dad had.....something. I could see a "new" 1903....or to the other end something really off in left field....but this is pretty middle of the road....pretty safe....and really does not (to me) say.....HAY BUY ME INSTEAD OF ___________.
Personally I would take a 1022.....and you know how I feel about that platform....over this.
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