Gun control circa 1952

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I am really old.

I think I am looking at it in a wider view.....I look at the changes that took place after the 1960's.....sure after WWI we had all kinds of crazyness, much the result of stupid laws....but I think that our country really took a hard left after 1960.....in more ways then one. After WWII, it was more of a deep breath....it seemed a more of we did it lets just enjoy it....we don't have to go nutz like our folks did, but we made it.

Up into the mid 50's things still......SORTA mellow....sure commies are starting to show up everywhere.....they have the bomb.....but at home.....still not too wild till the 60's.
 
Someone brought up Chuck Connors/the Rifleman in another thread recently. That's later than 1952, but close enough. Lot's of episodes touched on 2A issues, sometimes not so subtly. Good times.

It really wasn't until the 80s that anti-gun sentiments starting evolving into fanaticism.
 
Someone brought up Chuck Connors/the Rifleman in another thread recently. That's later than 1952, but close enough. Lot's of episodes touched on 2A issues, sometimes not so subtly. Good times.

It really wasn't until the 80s that anti-gun sentiments starting evolving into fanaticism.

I don't know.....there had to be some sort of public....out cry in the early-mid 60's for the 1968 deal to come about.....our system is setup so that things take a great deal of work to make happen.....the founding fathers knew that a knee jerk reaction is a bad thing so they setup the system for "gridlock".....this is by design.....however sometimes it does not work...(think 18th amendment)....however there is a system in place to make changes to this country and that is what we need to stick to....no matter how difficult it is....the 18th and 21st are poster children for this.
 
How many politicians did whitman shoot?

The gun control left wingers are always cocked and primed to jump on any tragedy to foist their agenda. Rahm Emanuel admitted this strategy, when he said, "Never let a good crisis go to waste".
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The standard "common sense" gun control book is already prepared and they simply cut and paste whatever they think they can get away with at any given moment.

A string of tragic events gave the left the momentum, culminating in the passage of the 68 Gun Control Act.

President JFK assassination 22 November 1963
UT tower shooting 1 August 1966
Bobby Kennedy assassinated 6 June 1968
LBJ signed 68 GCA 28 October 1968

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hps
 
The gun control left wingers are always cocked and primed to jump on any tragedy to foist their agenda. Rahm Emanuel admitted this strategy, when he said, "Never let a good crisis go to waste".
The standard "common sense" gun control book is already prepared and they simply cut and paste whatever they think they can get away with at any given moment.

A string of tragic events gave the left the momentum, culminating in the passage of the 68 Gun Control Act.

President JFK assassination 22 November 1963
UT tower shooting 1 August 1966
Bobby Kennedy assassinated 6 June 1968
LBJ signed 68 GCA 28 October 1968

Regards,
hps

Very true....but look at the "string of events" in the last 10-12 years.....add that to the non stop media coverage....you would think the left would have a cake walk.

This is the area of what changed that I am interested in.....the 1968 act did Jack to stop any of the events you listed above....just like any of the actions they (gun control folk) are pushing now....so why did this get traction then and not now....and it is so much more in your face now. I don't think the "pro" gun side is any more active....over the "anti" gun side....if anything I would say the "anti" is more main stream....however I was playing with GI Joe in '68 so I really did not know what was going on.

Is the left trying to jump too far, and to push their agenda they need to push smaller restrictions......is it too big a jump.

It is interesting, and being the glass half empty guy I am I do think that sooner or later they will win.
 
A string of tragic events gave the left the momentum, culminating in the passage of the 68 Gun Control Act.

Of course, and all of those things were very specific and isolated.

But it wasn't until politicians starting tying gun control to other contemporary issues that the real anti-gun fanaticism began. Think back to the "weapon of choice of ____" refrain. Certain guns, whatever was targeted in legislation, became the weapon of choice of drug dealers (80s), which evolved to gangs (90s), terrorists (00s), and now it's just a big mishmash of whatever. In between there's been panic centered around cults, the militia movement and supremacist groups. Once politicians figured out that tying gun control to other social ills was a good strategy, the movement gained significant traction and here we are today.
 
Who the heck was GI Joe? :rofl:
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You guys are making me really feel old. My first MOS:

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hps
I came this close to buying one of those things.....Israel used them all the way into the 80's and was a good source for tracks.....now not so much.

Kinda glad I did not do it.....now I am looking for a nice MUTT.....yea yea I know I am insane......if things go well I will likely snag one with the cash from the cars I have already got rid of....if not well the wife can put it to a new house in the city without so much to take care of.
 
I have a feeling they are going to put the kabash on this thread even tho we seem to be having a good time here....but I will leave it at this.

I really think the change started to come in the 60's.....our outlook on mental health changed, our outlook on crime and punishment changed.....school changed....learning the pledge of allegiance became brain washing....we changed the tried and true ways of doing things because of bad apples....don't remove the apple, tell that apple he is really good and do nothing while he rots the entire barrel.

For the record I asked my wife (52) the same "modern era" question and she went in a very different direction.....she said Obama started it all.....social media, youtube, fakebook....twitter....cyber bully...bla bla bla. She says this is when things changed.....I could see that angle as well.
 
I came this close to buying one of those things.....Israel used them all the way into the 80's and was a good source for tracks.....now not so much.
Probably good thing you didn't get one. Horrible gas mileage and they had a propensity for vapor locking; fuel line ran close to and above exhaust manifold (I'd bet the Israelis rerouted it). We managed to limp in once with a man riding fender with hood open while swabbing fuel line w/wet rag. Not to mention the fact that cost of license plates would equal those house payments you mentioned.:rofl:

Regards,
hps
 
I have a feeling they are going to put the kabash on this thread even tho we seem to be having a good time here....but I will leave it at this.

I really think the change started to come in the 60's.....our outlook on mental health changed, our outlook on crime and punishment changed.....school changed....learning the pledge of allegiance became brain washing....we changed the tried and true ways of doing things because of bad apples....don't remove the apple, tell that apple he is really good and do nothing while he rots the entire barrel.

For the record I asked my wife (52) the same "modern era" question and she went in a very different direction.....she said Obama started it all.....social media, youtube, fakebook....twitter....cyber bully...bla bla bla. She says this is when things changed.....I could see that angle as well.

I think you are both right. From memory, the 68 GCA was the first really noticeable downturn and seemed to be the beginning of a steady rate of descent but Obama's regime originated an even steeper decline marked by the policies initiated in Ferguson, Mo and was, IMO the beginning of the lack of respect for LEO's so prevalent today.

Regards,
hps
 
Probably good thing you didn't get one. Horrible gas mileage and they had a propensity for vapor locking; fuel line ran close to and above exhaust manifold (I'd bet the Israelis rerouted it). We managed to limp in once with a man riding fender with hood open while swabbing fuel line w/wet rag. Not to mention the fact that cost of license plates would equal those house payments you mentioned.:rofl:

Regards,
hps

Well it would really just be a toy for reenacting....so not a real big deal....drive around a field, tow a hay wagon and give rides at the bigger events.

The "cool" of tracks without the huge pain in the butt of tracks.
 
I think you are both right. From memory, the 68 GCA was the first really noticeable downturn and seemed to be the beginning of a steady rate of descent but Obama's regime originated an even steeper decline marked by the policies initiated in Ferguson, Mo and was, IMO the beginning of the lack of respect for LEO's so prevalent today.

Regards,
hps

I work in MO and at the time it was a pretty hot button.....Many in the "community" think a big part of the problem is most of the people that worked in law enforcement in ferguson did not live there.....it puts an "occupying force" mindset all the way around.

And that again wheels back to the original topic.....all this stuff is linked, and it all comes down to issues in society.
 
The "cool" of tracks without the huge pain in the butt of tracks.

They had their own issues, one of which was the fact that when you turned the steering wheel in mud, expect a WIDE turn as the tracks continue to push straight forward and your front wheels don't follow the ruts made by preceding wheeled vehicles.

I work in MO and at the time it was a pretty hot button.....Many in the "community" think a big part of the problem is most of the people that worked in law enforcement in ferguson did not live there.....it puts an "occupying force" mindset all the way around.

All the more reason not to insert the feds into the equation. All that accomplished was to ratchet up distrust of LEO's and racial issues already simmering there, and spread it across the entire nation, IMO.

Regards,
hps
 
A string of tragic events gave the left the momentum, culminating in the passage of the 68 Gun Control Act.
Everything is an excuse to do what you were planning to do anyway.

Just remember, these laws are not intended to stop actual criminals or felons. They are protected by the Fifth Amendment from being prosecuted for lying about being legally able to buy and keep weapons.
These laws are intended to affect the law abiding ONLY.
 
Everything is an excuse to do what you were planning to do anyway.

Just remember, these laws are not intended to stop actual criminals or felons. They are protected by the Fifth Amendment from being prosecuted for lying about being legally able to buy and keep weapons.
These laws are intended to affect the law abiding ONLY.

Absolutely! The far left has a whole wall full of shelves with various plans and simply choose the one that fits best the current "serious crisis" the moment it presents itself.

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