U.S. Appeals Court In Chicago Again Upholds Laws Banning Assault Weapons

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Time to appeal this to the US Supreme Court.


From the article: “In contending that the Cook County case was distinct from the Highland Park challenge, lawyers for the two gun owners wrote that the "frequency of the criminal threats faced" in the Chicago area should be considered in deciding whether restrictions infringe on a gun owner's Second Amendment rights.

The court, however, did not find that logic persuasive, saying the gun laws did not prevent citizens from acquiring other types of weapons for self-protection.

"Our discussion of self-defense focused instead on the availability of other means for citizens to defend themselves," the court wrote. "This is a question answered by the particular locality's laws, not by its crime rates."


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I love the caption to the photo. They brought a 50 cal “assault weapon”. I guess having an AR there wasn’t big or scary enough. But at least they had a Night Force scope on it! I wonder why no one was the victim of that gun’s violence. It must have been depressed that day to be around so many potential targets and couldn’t do anything but just sit there and pose for pictures because it had been banned.
 
Would be better if they upheld sweeping the hoods for illegal weapons. I'm all for the 4th but when it's public safety vs criminals I'm not so much.
 
What does the word "infringe" mean to lawyers & judges? And moreover, if jurists can apply their own meaning of "shall not be infringed," then how are We, the People, supposed to believe our rights are protected by a few ink blots on a piece of paper?
 
More importantly isn’t the whole “we can ban semi-automatic weapons for self-defense as long as we allow you to have a derringer” defense already been defeated in past decisions?
 
What does the word "infringe" mean to lawyers & judges?
Well, the case hinged upon the ability of a municipality to make laws, not upon the second Amendment, so, technically, "infringement" was not a consideration in this case.

Now, more to the point, the 7th circus did fail to address the Illinois pre-emption State Law, which should have invalidated the local law--but, apparently did not in the artificial vacuum of how court cases are considered.
 
Well, the case hinged upon the ability of a municipality to make laws, not upon the second Amendment, so, technically, "infringement" was not a consideration in this case.

Now, more to the point, the 7th circus did fail to address the Illinois pre-emption State Law, which should have invalidated the local law--but, apparently did not in the artificial vacuum of how court cases are considered.

One might tend to think that municipalities would be bound by the meaning and intent of the Founding Document as any other legislature.
But what do I know? --- I'm just a ordinary plain layperson, not a distinguished legal eagle. :uhoh:
 
Hypothetical situation: Lets say the anti semi auto people finely win. All semi auto firearms are collected by the government and I mean all.
So now there are no semi auto guns to be had by anyone. So now those people bent on mass murder start using cars, trucks and the like.
Do you think the same people will call for a total ban on these vehicles and say public transportation is now your only choice?
 
if you want to see the results of Chicago and other locales style of gun control laws look at the shooting statistics after this weekend is over just for Chicago.
 
The pre-emption law went through at the time CCW permits were introduced and specifically exempted municipal and county ordinances enacted before a cut off date. That is why it didn't come into play here I suppose. Not really a very important ruling in the larger picture...at least not yet.
 
A medieval "handgonne" fired with a heated piece of wire is an "assault weapon" when they want to ban it.
The gun industry started using the term "assault rifle" before the antigunners did. The term was a selling point for guns that vaguely resembled the original German "assault rifles" (intermediate cartridge, selective fire) of WW2. The antigunners simply took what the gun industry was putting out, and ran with it.
 
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