Me and P229 need counseling

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dumbhunter

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Hi all. I have an old p229 (German frame & stainless US made slide) and we are having problems. I used to shoot it a lot, but I've hardly shot any pistols in the last year or so. And when I have gone shooting, I mainly shot my HK's and 1911's . This weekend I shot it and I find my self conflicted. The double action trigger is buttery smooth. The first shot goes center bulls eye, then the next goes a little off center, then each shot gets worse. I feel like the grip is super square, and is rolling in my hand. If I slowed down, round went right back on target, then got worse. I thought it was me, but I was also shooting my Dan Wesson Valor that day and was very consistent.

I'm wondering if I should get a set of the g10 grips. I feel like the butt is too square and if I could make it more oval or rectangular, it could fix the situation.

Thiughts?

Thanks guys
 
That's good to hear. I thought they might work, but at about $100 didn't want to take a shot in the dark
 
Look for a range that has a single stack classic P Series for rent. Think 220, 239 or the new 225-A1. I love the classic P Series Sigs but the double stacks are too large for my hand but i don't have that problem with the single stacks. If are near Greenville, SC I'll let you try my 225-A1.
 
Look for a range that has a single stack classic P Series for rent. Think 220, 239 or the new 225-A1. I love the classic P Series Sigs but the double stacks are too large for my hand but i don't have that problem with the single stacks. If are near Greenville, SC I'll let you try my 225-A1.

I think I have a different issue. I have really large hands. The HK usp45 fits me really well, but is more the shape. As I've gotten older, my fingers got fatter and my grip a little weaker I guess, and the square grip now seems to twist because it's harder to hold on to.

Thanks for the offer, but I'm in the country's armpit, NJ, but I really like the new p225 a1.
 
Dumbhunter, take the shot in the dark. I have the Hogue G10 grips on my P229. While YMMV, my 'squirming' problem evaporated.
 
Dumbhunter, take the shot in the dark. I have the Hogue G10 grips on my P229. While YMMV, my 'squirming' problem evaporated.

Think I will. Went to the range today and she shot really well... same ammo and everything... guess it's me. Ever since getting Lyme disease, my hand strength and dexterity have been off. I'll try the new grips, I owe her that.

Thanks guys
 
dumbhunter

I have small hands and originally had a P226; great gun but a little too wide and a bit of a reach to the trigger. Liked the P228 but still not quite there with the grip design. Finally found a P229 with the SRT and the E2 grips and they fit me perfectly and the gun is a dream to shoot!

Would certainly try new grips as a possible quick fix to your shooting dilemma.

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I have Hogue G10 stocks on my P226 X5 and they are an improvement in grip surface over the original stocks for sure. The front strap on my pistol is checkered and that also helps a great deal with traction and making the pistol stay put shot to shot.

The grip shape in my experience has a limited impact on how well the pistol stays in place during rapid fire. For me it all comes down to how well the texture of the grip surface bites in and doesn’t let go, and how hard I can grip the gun. Good grip strength and a “grippy” grip for me = a lot more controllable pistol with much more repeatable results as I try to get on the loud switch in a hurry.
 
I agree on the "grippy" texture, it does make a major difference.

Grip shape does too though, or at least for me it does. I had P226's and P229's, and between the two, always prefered the feel of the 226's grip over the 229's. Considering that they are basically the same size, the 229's are a good bit "chunkier" and feel it.

For awhile there back in the early 2000's, Houge was stippling factory SIG grip panels and selling them on their auction site. They did a really nice job of it too. They were actually the first stippled stocks I ever saw, although I never took advantage of them at the time. Having been stippling many of my Glocks and a few other things, I know better now. The way the gun locks into your hand with the grip stippled is an eye opener.

Im down to only a couple of SIG's now, and recently did stipple my P228's grip. If youre planning on swapping them out anyway, you may want to give it a try first. That, and a strip of skateboard tape on the front strap, and you have wrap around "grippy". :thumbup:

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That skateboard tape on the front strap thing was something I did to all my SIG's and it alone makes a big difference, and is a cheap fix. I used ot put it on grips too, but stippling has replaced it. A lot better coverage and more effective.
 
https://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Grip-LG-8-8-Ounce-Bottle/dp/B003L7N0EC

If a pistol is squirming in the shooter's strong hand, that usually indicates a severe lack of frictional interface between the shooter and the gun. Usually even a little friction will prevent it, so either the grip is really slick, the hands are really sweaty, or the grip is really strength-deficient if service-caliber recoil is moving the gun around in the strong hand.

Skateboard tape, stippling, checkering are all things that can be done to the gun. The liquid grip (or similar product) applied to the hands can help without doing anything to the gun, or, ideally, can be combined with grippy gun texture to really lock the gun in.

I would also suggest making sure that the web of the hand is pushed up hard against the beavertail. The right hand usually can get more of an "interference fit" with the gun that should reduce the amount the gun can move relative to the hand. The weak hand, of course, is almost all friction-based.
 
My hand size is a bit larger than average for an adult male. I have Hogue G10 Piranha grips on one of my SIG P229s and I like them quite a bit. They are rather less aggressive in texture than pictures of them might suggest, but they provide a very secure grip in my hands.

Both of my P229s came with the E2 monogrip and I took them off both pistols. I really didn't care for them at all, but that is just me as I know some folks love them. They seem to work well for those with hand sizes a bit small for the stock grips.

If you feel that the butt of the P229 is too square, do not buy a Glock.
 
I was going to suggest tightening up the weak hand grip and pull through the trigger break.

If the first one is dead on, and shots after are not, I usually try to eliminate flinching as a factor first, then when that's definitely not it, look at other factors.
 
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