Redding Comp. Pro Series die set came with Taper Crimp for 357?

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I received a Redding Competition Pro Series Dual Ring Carbide 3 Die Set and I noticed the crimp die is marked "Taper Cr". I was expecting the 357 die set to come with what Redding calls a "Profile Crimp" die for 38/357. I'm not sure which kind of crimp I want to use, but I'm mostly accustomed to a roll crimp on 357 and I'm not so sure I want a taper crimp.

So I read in Redding's literature and there is simply no details about the crimp die that comes with this die set. Not surprisingly, the literature focuses on the dual ring sizing die's features.

Elsewhere in the catalog, I read, "The Redding Taper Crimp Die Set is designed for cartridges used in handguns with headspace on the case mouth and where more conventional roll crimping is not preferred. For people who do reloading and want a taper crimp and more uniformity, the set is also available for certain revolver cartridges."

I understand there are reasons to sometimes use a taper crimp even with a cartridge that headspaces on the rim, such as when crimping frangible bullets. But why would Redding select this type of crimp for a dual ring carbide die set?

Presently, I have been using a Lee Factory Crimp Die for 357. I consider this to be a "roll" crimp die. It curls the mouth of the brass case into the cannelure or crimp groove of the bullet. Even on plated bullets with no cannelure or crimp groove, it can be adjusted to incise the plating.

I tried using the Redding die and found it does indeed form what appears to be a taper crimp only. Even at an extreme adjustment, it just tapers more of the case neck.

I can use this for frangible bullets and possibly Berry's plated hollowpoints that do not have a crimp groove or cannelure. Is there any reason I want to use this taper crimp for bullets that do have a groove or cannelure?

Is there an advantage to this taper crimp die? Or should I get a Micro-adjustable Profile Crimp die?
 
You want the micro adjustable profile die. Odd your set came with a taper that might be in error and you should see if Redding will swap you considering the expense. My set came with the profile for what its worth.
 
I use a taper crimp for my mild to mid range .357 mag loads. I just use it to do a little more than straighten out the flare from the flaring die.
There is nothing printed anywhere that says you have to roll crimp all your revolver rounds, The only advantage I can see to preferring a taper crimp over a roll crimp is if you don't trim your brass.

A taper crimp is much more forgiving with untrimmed brass than a roll crimp is, for light to mid range target loads, but that is about the only reason I can think of.

If you are going to shoot these same rounds out of a tube magazine rifle you will want to roll crimp though, to stop bullet setback from recoil.

Sequins said,
You want the micro adjustable profile die. Odd your set came with a taper that might be in error and you should see if Redding will swap you considering the expense. My set came with the profile for what its worth.
I would too,
a taper crimp die in a "Redding Comp Pro" die set seems cheap to me for what you have to pay for those. I would send them back and get the set I wanted.
 
According to Midway, the pro series should have come with a profile (roll) crimp die.
Send it back and get the correct set or buy the profile crimp die to have both.
I use both. I like the taper crimp for plated and coated bullets that have no crimp groove. A taper crimp will hold a 158 grain plated bullet loaded to 1000 fps, but the profile crimp is needed for magnum loads. The taper crimp die will not turn the case mouth down into a cannalure.
I love the micro-adjust comp seating die, but I think the micro-adjust feature is overkill on a crimp die, the regular profile crimp die is $50 less.
 
measure the expander plug diameter. if it is .356", you have a die set up for 38 special target loads.

luck,

murf
 
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