145 CEO's Send Letter to Congress Demanding Action on Gun Control

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I read this letter and the comments that went with it. Wow. :cuss: The main phrase that stuck out to me is "common sense gun reform". I'm just about positive that in a room with 10 different people, you'd have 10 different ideas of what "common sense" is. Hey business, I don't care how woke you are, how about some customer service?!
 
If the New York Times was still a reputable news source, they would have taken that phrase "Doing nothing about America’s gun violence crisis is simply unacceptable" and seen if the data backs up there being an actual crisis.
 
I'm just about positive that in a room with 10 different people, you'd have 10 different ideas of what "common sense" is.
Exactly. As long as the gun controllers are vague about what they want to do, they poll well. When they cross the line and advocate confiscation, their support drops like a lead balloon. The obvious strategy for the pro-gun side is to expose the confiscators for what they are. The latest trend among the antigunners ("mandatory buybacks") makes this task easy.
 
I read this letter ... main phrase that stuck out to me is "common sense gun reform"
Been there and done that already.

We have tried "common sense" gun control/reform in California the past several decades and all it got us was SLOW EROSION to our gun rights/2A. To me, "common sense" gun control/reform is just another phrase for SLOW GUN BAN/CONFISCATION.

As to CEO signing letters, that's just another example of rich elite trying to impose their will on rights of the minority gun owners. I mean, us gun owners don't tell them which brand of toilet paper to wipe their butts with ... right?

And guess what?

CEOs come and go. ;)


And enough is enough and CA gun owners are pushing back and fighting and winning legal battles to reverse/overturn anti gun laws and law makers (So ignore the latest propaganda by antis and focus on what really matters, future of our gun rights/2A - Keep voting in pro gun/2A law makers and presidents) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...lated-information.849620/page-6#post-11208355

New lawsuit filed against CA "assault weapon" ban - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...filed-against-ca-aw-ban.854994/#post-11208322

Trump's latest appointments to 9th Circuit almost ready to flip panel make up for future cases (Antis know they are already losing the judicial fight so they are in desperate panic mode) - https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-la...se-to-having-more-trump-judges-than-any-other

Current 9th Circuit legal cases - https://crpa.org/wp-content/uploads/California-Legal-Affairs-Report-December-2018.pdf

CRPA/NRA legal cases - https://crpa.org/news/litigation/ (And enough of NRA bashing. At least NRA is FIGHTING legal battles for US and winning).

Calguns legal cases - https://www.calgunsfoundation.org/litigation
 
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Other CEO's were asked to sign, but declined, presumably to not risk profits.
More like CEOs that signed are already financially independent/well off and could handle any backlash/termination when company/corporate profits take hits from gun owners' boycott (And believe me, they have been proven effective against many companies/corporations) and CEOs that didn't sign are still working on their financial independence and can't afford to get fired. ;)

And I wonder what will speak louder to Congress?

145 CEOs signing canned letter (That's 145 votes) or thousands of voters sending emails/letters/calls to Congress?

145 vs thousands of votes ... :rofl:

Yup, politicians live and work to get re-elected.
 
Not any I have ever done business with. Maybe Levis (but no more). And what's with the do something mentality when nobody does anything with the existing laws. People who are ticking clocks, waiting to go off, with everyone around them knowing it with certainty. Yet the can gets kicked down the road until the timer is up and they go off on the innocent. Then they are quoted as "I knew it".
 
More like CEOs that signed are already financially independent/well off and could handle any backlash/termination when company/corporate profits take hits from gun owners' boycott (And believe me, they have been proven effective against many companies/corporations) and CEOs that didn't sign are still working on their financial independence and can't afford to get fired.
I don't think that's it at all. These CEO's are playing to the soccer moms, and not to gun owners. Same as the politicians. It comes down to potential dollars spent in their stores (or votes, in the case of the politicians). Both business leaders, and politicians, are good at this kind of math. They are more afraid of a soccer mom boycott than a gun owners' boycott. The calculation is changing, and changing rapidly.
 
These CEO's are playing to the soccer moms ... They are more afraid of a soccer mom boycott
So what are some reasons why some of the CEOs declined to sign the letter? (Who knows, there may have been more CEOs that refused/declined to sign than 145 that signed. ;))

Because signing the letter would conflict with their personal beliefs and/or company/corporate interests that superseded above soccer moms?
 
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It's certainly interesting (and appalling) watching left-wingers suddenly fall in love with corporate power in politics. And amusing to watch a lot of right-wingers waking up to the fact that big corporate entities can be just as serious a threat to your freedom of choice as government (in part because of their ability to hijack the government).
 
It's certainly interesting (and appalling) watching left-wingers suddenly fall in love with corporate power in politics. And amusing to watch a lot of right-wingers waking up to the fact that big corporate entities can be just as serious a threat to your freedom of choice as government (in part because of their ability to hijack the government).
Just another attempt of WILL of the majority being imposed on the RIGHTS of the minority.

And why Constitutional Republic form of our government exists instead of Pure Democracy where the majority can impose on the minority.

Our founding fathers got it right.
 
If the New York Times was still a reputable news source,

Look up some of their news stories from a hundred years ago. Sensationalism, pushing political points of view, and just generally selling copy was what they always were. The color of journalism is generally yellow. Nobody is going to use a platform with such potential for influence to simply tell you what happened and leave it to you to decide what it means.

Believe it, I suppose, if they say there's an earthquake in Turkey. When they try to tell you what it means that demands a level of trust they haven't earned.
 
So what are some reasons why some of the CEOs declined to sign the letter? (Who knows, there may have been more CEOs that refused/declined to sign that 145 that signed. ;))

Because signing the letter would conflict with their personal beliefs and/or company/corporate interests that superseded above soccer moms?
The first thing that comes to mind is they realize they have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders.......
 
It's certainly interesting (and appalling) watching left-wingers suddenly fall in love with corporate power in politics. And amusing to watch a lot of right-wingers waking up to the fact that big corporate entities can be just as serious a threat to your freedom of choice as government (in part because of their ability to hijack the government).
I've said for years that guns are inherently not a right-left issue. We need to decouple gun rights from conservatism in general. This is where the NRA is making a huge mistake. By making itself an arm of the Republican party, it gives political cover for everyone who is not a Republican to oppose guns.
 
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I've said for years that guns are not a right-left issue. We need to decouple gun rights from conservatism in general. This is where the NRA is making a huge mistake. By making itself an arm of the Republican party, it gives political cover for everyone who is not a Republican to oppose guns.
What on Earth does corporate antigun activism have to do with conservatism? These CEOs arent advocating for social justice, climate change, single payer health care, abortion, open borders, or eliminating the electoral college.

This document is targeted at all gun owners, not just the Republican ones.
 
I've said for years that guns are not a right-left issue. We need to decouple gun rights from conservatism in general. This is where the NRA is making a huge mistake. By making itself an arm of the Republican party, it gives political cover for everyone who is not a Republican to oppose guns.

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And enough is enough and CA gun owners are pushing back and fighting and winning legal battles to reverse/overturn anti gun laws and law makers (So ignore the latest propaganda by antis and focus on what really matters, future of our gun rights/2A - Keep voting in pro gun/2A law makers and presidents) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...lated-information.849620/page-6#post-11208355

New lawsuit filed against CA "assault weapon" ban - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...filed-against-ca-aw-ban.854994/#post-11208322

Trump's latest appointments to 9th Circuit almost ready to flip panel make up for future cases (Antis know they are already losing the judicial fight so they are in desperate panic mode) - https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-la...se-to-having-more-trump-judges-than-any-other

Current 9th Circuit legal cases - https://crpa.org/wp-content/uploads/California-Legal-Affairs-Report-December-2018.pdf

CRPA/NRA legal cases - https://crpa.org/news/litigation/ (And enough of NRA bashing. At least NRA is FIGHTING legal battles for US and winning).

Calguns legal cases - https://www.calgunsfoundation.org/litigation


Exactly, thank you very much. I have an older brother who buried himself in Washington, pity his poor soul. He said the reason the last President left so many federal benches open was his pitiful staff thought they'd just pass the buck to Queenie ...rather obvious but I still missed it. Now conservative judges give all American freedoms more chance, so that's what they lost by leaving those slots open. Of course they did so in order to have more time for fun and games, rejoicing in their cush-cush lifestyle at the wonderful Club Fed. (Some come for the pay ...but they stay for the leave.)
 
Let's take a step back and take a break (And take a DEEP breath).

The antis have been working the state/federal government and the court system to push their agenda of gun ban/confiscation for decades. (Well, two can play that game ;))
the reason the last President left so many federal benches open was his pitiful staff thought they'd just pass the buck to Queenie ...rather obvious but I still missed it. Now conservative judges give all American freedoms more chance
Amen. Perhaps it was "destiny". :D

When they thought they had their way, 2016 presidential election happened to their shock and surprise (I guess "deplorable" people can still think for themselves and vote for whoever they want :rofl: :thumbup:).

To their dismay, our president has been appointing federal judges and the Supreme Court justices like no other president in history to tilt the balance of the panel/bench to the conservative pro gun/2A side - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Donald_Trump

In 2010, Supreme Court justice Kagan stated “We are all originalists” which spoke to a subtle but increasingly apparent truth that since the 1980s, there has seen a quiet judicial revolution where judges across the country are paying more and more attention to what the Constitution meant when it was ratified and the trend is unmistakable - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a..._are_all_originalists_now_sort_of_140957.html

And surprise to many, increasing number of cases are being ruled in favor of conservative and pro gun/2A tilt. With justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh appointed to the SCOTUS with their impeccable arguments for original meaning and intent of the Constitution (Even Ginsburg is fan of their impeccable reasoning), re-election of Trump will seal the judicial future by Trump appointing future justices that are like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, originalists for decades, perhaps generations.

The antis must be in full tilt panic mode right now because if/when Trump wins in 2020, their decades of work can and will be undone by future federal/SCOTUS judge/justice appointments.

So anticipate more desperate panic reaction and ape crazy efforts by the antis to force/impose their WILL on us gun owners' RIGHTS.

BUT know that we are WINNING the judicial fight for our gun rights who can overrule/overturn what the anti gun/2A law makers want to do - GUN BAN/CONFISCATION.

Enjoy the show.
 
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Absolute power corrupts, absolutely...

We have been witnessing the creation of the new iteration of the robber baron in America. Republicans have traditionally supported and protected the wealthy no matter how wealthy and how powerful they become.

Now we have giant monopolies in almost all areas of retail and the majority of those CEOs who control the markets are becoming "woke" and are using their un-checked power to attack individual freedoms and liberty and conservative values.

The Bible states that the love of money is the root of all evil, and it is absolutely correct.
 
I believe we will win the judicial fight for gun rights/2A.

Social justice warrior CEOs can kiss my dirty bore brushes.

Now we need the list of their names so we can voice our discontent to the board members and add to our boycott list. :D

UPDATE: Here it is with the letter. Not surprisingly, many are already on our anti-gun/2A company boycott list. Time for another cup of coffee and to make a list of company boards to write to and add to my anti gun/2A company boycott list (I won't waste my time writing to already known ant gun/2A companies on the boycott list) - https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6402600-CEO-Senate-GVP-Letter-Final-Signatories-12.html

Brian Chesky, Cofounder, Head of Community and CEO, Airbnb

Keith Mestrich, President and CEO, Amalgamated Bank

John Connaughton and Jonathan Lavine, Co-Managing Partners, and Josh Bekenstein and

Steve Pagliuca, Co-Chairmen, Bain Capital

Ethan Brown, Cofounder and CEO, Beyond Meat

Peter T. Grauer, Chairman, Bloomberg LP

Ric Clark, Chairman, Brookfield Property Group

Fritz Lanman, CEO, ClassPass

Roger Lynch, CEO, Condé Nast

Ken Lin, Founder and CEO, Credit Karma

Edward Stack, CEO, DICK'S Sporting Goods

Tony Xu, Cofounder and CEO, DoorDash

Doug Baker, Chairman and CEO, Ecolab

Richard Edelman, President and CEO, Edelman

Julia Hartz, Co-Founder and CEO, Eventbrite

Art Peck, CEO, Gap Inc.

Eddy Lu, CEO, Goat Group

Ben Lerer, Cofounder and CEO, Group Nine Media

Yannick Bolloré, CEO, Havas Group

Bill Koenigsberg, President, CEO and Founder, Horizon Media

Patrick O. Brown, M.D., Ph.D., Founder and CEO, Impossible Foods

Michael Roth, Chairman and CEO, Interpublic

Rob Frohwein, Cofounder and CEO, and Kathryn Petralia, Cofounder and President,

Kabbage Inc. and Drum Technologies

Chip Bergh, President and CEO, Levi Strauss & Co.

Logan Green, Cofounder and CEO, and John Zimmer, Co-Founder and President, Lyft

Dev Ittycheria, President and CEO, MongoDB, Inc.

Howard Marks, Co-Chairman, Oaktree Capital Management

Todd McKinnon, Co-Founder and CEO, Okta

John Wren, Chairman and CEO, Omnicom Group

Ben Silbermann, Cofounder and CEO, Pinterest

Bastian Lehmann, Cofounder & CEO, Postmates

Hamid R. Moghadam, Chairman and CEO, Prologis

Arthur Sadoun, Chairman and CEO, Publicis Groupe

Steve Huffman, CEO, Reddit

Richard Fain, CEO, Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd.

Scott Rechler, Chairman and CEO, RXR Realty

Jon Oringer, Founder and CEO, Shutterstock, Inc.

Jack Dorsey, CEO, Square and Twitter

Anthony Casalena, Founder and CEO, Squarespace

Zander Lurie, CEO, SurveyMonkey

Arianna Huffington, Founder and CEO, Thrive Global

Blake Mycoskie, Founder and Chief Shoe Giver, and Jim Alling, CEO, TOMS

Jeff Lawson, Cofounder and CEO, Twilio

Dara Khosrowshahi, CEO, Uber

Mark Read, CEO, WPP

Jeremy Stoppelman, Cofounder and CEO, Yelp

Organizations with fewer than 500 employees:

Kevin P. Ryan, Founder and CEO, AlleyCorp

Travis Truett, Cofounder and CEO, Ambition

John W. Rogers, Jr., Founder, Chairman and Co-CEO, and Mellody Hobson, Co-CEO &

President, Ariel Investments, LLC

Mike Steib, CEO, Artsy

Sean Knapp, Cofounder and CEO, Ascend.io

Andrei Cherny, Cofounder and CEO, Aspiration

Abdur Chowdhury, CEO, Aura

Fahim M. Aziz, Founder and CEO, Backpack

JJ Abrams, Chairman and Co-CEO, and Katie McGrath, Co-CEO, Bad Robot

Ari Paparo, CEO, BeeswaxIO Corporation

Ryan Block, Cofounder, Begin

John Borthwick, Founder and CEO, Betaworks

Raphael Crawford-Marks, Cofounder and CEO, Bonusly

Darren Lachtman, Cofounder, Brat

Trevor McFedries, CEO, Brud

Sameer Shariff, Cofounder, Cambly

Analisa Goodin, Founder and CEO, Catch&Release, Inc.

Andrew Feldman, Founder and CEO, Cerebras Systems

George Favvas, CEO, Circle Medical

Alex MacCaw, CEO, Clearbit

Tyler Bosmeny, CEO, Clever

Matt Martin, Cofounder and CEO, Clockwise

Othman Laraki, Cofounder and CEO, Color Genomics

Jager McConnell, CEO, Crunchbase, Inc.

Apu Gupta, Cofounder and CEO, Curalate, Inc.

David Oates, Cofounder and CEO, Curtsy

Brian Ree, Founder and CEO, DAILYLOOK

Saurabh Ladha, CEO, Doxel, Inc.

Andy Coravos, Cofounder and CEO, Elektra Labs

Laurene Powell Jobs, President, Emerson Collective

Pradeep Elankumaran, Cofounder & CEO, Farmstead

Desiree Gruber, CEO, Full Picture

Jared Hecht, Founder and CEO, Fundera

Jude Gomila, Founder and CEO, Golden

Rick Nucci, Cofounder and CEO, Guru

Kara Goldin, Founder and CEO, Hint, Inc.

Jeff Sellinger, Cofounder and CEO, HipDot

Prerna Gupta, CEO, Hooked

Cyrus Massoumi, Managing Partner, humbition

Kristin Savilia, CEO, JOOR

Pierre Valade, CEO, Jumbo Privacy

William Martino, Founder and CEO, Kadena

Jake Perlman-Garr, CEO, Kanga

Warren Shaeffer, Cofounder and CEO, Knowable

Jack Altman, CEO, Lattice

Aaron N. Block, Cofounder and Managing Director, MetaProp.vc

Afton Vechery, Cofounder and CEO, Modern Fertility

Dan Parham, Founder and CEO, and Tee Parham, Founder and CTO, Neighborland

Shafqat Islam, CEO, NewsCred

Sarah Friar, CEO, Nextdoor

Athan Stephanopoulos, President, NowThis

Varsha Rao, CEO, Nurx

William E. Oberndorf, Chairman, Oberndorf Enterprises

Steven Rosenblatt, Cofounder and General Partner, Oceans

Nick Huzar, Cofounder and CEO, OfferUp

James Segil, Cofounder and President, Openpath

Jordan Husney, CEO, Parabol

Doug Aley, CEO, Paravision

John Milinovich, CEO, Plato Design

Rajat Suri, CEO, Presto

Christopher Gavigan, Founder and CEO, Prima

Adam Regelmann, Founder and COO, Quartzy

Nate Maslak, Cofounder and CEO, and Nate Fox, Co-Founder and CTO, Ribbon Health

Zachariah Reitano, Cofounder and CEO, Ro

Gary Beasley, Cofounder and CEO, Roofstock

Stephen Ehikian, Cofounder and CEO, Ruist

Brian Schechter, CEO, SelfMade

Olga Vidisheva, Founder and CEO, Shoptiques Inc.

Dan Doctoroff, CEO, Sidewalk Labs

Jason Tan, CEO, Sift

Matt Cooper, CEO, Skillshare

Grant Jordan, CEO, SkySafe

Josh Guttman, Cofounder and CEO and Florent Peyre, Co-Founder and President, Small Door

Michael Carvin, Cofounder and CEO, SmartAsset

Aaron King, Founder and CEO, Snapdocs, Inc.

Neil Capel, CEO, Solve.io

Ben Hindman, Cofounder and CEO, Splash

Evan Beard, Founder and CEO, Standard Bots

Stanlee R. Gatti, Founder, Stanlee R. Gatti Designs

Bradford Oberwager, CEO, Sundia Corporation

Ross Feinstein, CEO, Sunlight Health

Paul Budnitz, CEO, Superplastic

Ron Conway, Founder, SV Angel

Heidi Zak, Cofounder and Co-CEO, and David Spector, Co-Founder and Co-CEO, ThirdLove

Yashar Nejati, CEO, thisopenspace inc.

Joshua Kushner, Founder and Managing Partner, Thrive Capital

Chris Wang, CEO, ThunderCore Inc.

Corbett Kull, CEO, Tillable

Meghan Jewitt, CEO, Uniform Teeth

Nicholas Goldner, Cofounder and CEO, and Christopher Bulow, Co-Founder and COO,

Viosera Therapeutics

Ken Chong, CEO, Virtual Kitchen Co

Irv Remedios, CEO, Voxer

Oliver Cameron, Cofounder and CEO, Voyage

Chase Adam, Cofounder and CEO, and Grace Garey, Co-Founder and COO, Watsi

Liz Wessel, Cofounder and CEO, WayUp

Neil Waller, CEO, Whalar

Bismarck Lepe, CEO, Wizeline

Dennis R. Mortensen, Founder and CEO, x.ai, inc.

Geoff Ralston, President, Y Combinator

Shan-Lyn Ma, Cofounder and CEO, Zola
 
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BUT know that we are WINNING the judicial fight for our gun rights who can overrule/overturn what the anti gun/2A law makers want to do - GUN BAN/CONFISCATION.
What evidence do you have that we are winning the fight for gun rights in the courts? AWB's are being upheld and the so-called "conservative" Supreme Court is refusing to take the cases. There is nothing to indicate that the SC would invalidate even "mandatory buybacks" (confiscations) of AW's. They would simply cite the dicta in Scalia's Heller opinion.
 
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