Now Beto wants to take ALL THE SEMI-AUTO FIREARMS away (Not just AR15s and AK47s)

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Actually, from the point of view of the antigunners, his sin is that he's telling the truth. There's no hiding their ultimate goal any more, which is to confiscate guns. They wanted to preserve their deniability for a while longer.
I agree. He was lying in the past about what he wants.

But if he did it in the past, he’ll do it again about something else.
 
UPDATE: Plot twist to what happened in Colorado yesterday. (Things are often not what they appear to be)

O'Rourke was asked by Evan Todd who is a PRO GUN RIGHTS Columbine High School shooting survivor, if he was willing to consider "getting rid" of all semi-automatic firearms, as the two shooters in the 1999 massacre did not use AR-15s or AK-47s. Beto O'Rourke responded he is open to expanding the types of firearms that would be confiscated under his administration - https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...er-getting-rid-of-all-semi-automatic-firearms

Yes, Evan Todd is PRO GUN RIGHTS and was just TESTING O'Rourke how far he is willing to go and twitted - https://twitter.com/evanmtodd/status/1174937043756912640

"I wanted a clear answer from Beto of where he draws the line, but never got one.

To answer my own question on if we should ban guns, the answer is: HELL NO! As far as my stance on guns? The Second Amendment supports me."


And NRA twitted this in support of Evan Todd - https://twitter.com/NRA/status/1175088260269391879

"@EvanMTodd is a pro-#2A Columbine survivor. He wanted to see how far Beto would go with his gun confiscation. Beto's criteria is if the 'weapon was designed to kill people...' That’s code for 'we will confiscate ALL guns.'"
 
Beto O'Rourke and antis are probably saying, "Ooops ..." :D:D:D


Columbine Survivor Evan Todd Was Used To Push Beto’s Gun Grab. There’s Just One Problem - https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/20/columbine-evan-todd-used-beto-gun-grab-problem/

"What most failed to mention was the fact that Todd is an outspoken defender of the Second Amendment. He works as the communications director for a group called Bullets Both Ways and is a vocal advocate for increasing school security and arming teachers.

... ABC presidential campaign reporter Jeffrey Cook noted the correction Friday, tweeting, 'And he wasn’t asking for semi-autos to be included in the ban. Todd, according to this tweet, wanted to know if O’Rourke would go there.'

'When I listen back on Beto’s remarks a second time, he clearly states his intentions and that is a ban on everything.'"

It's just not a glass of milk that got spilt anymore when he said "Hell yes, we are going to take away your AR15s and AK47s". After saying he was open to expanding gun ban/confiscation to include all semi-auto firearms yesterday in Colorado, it's now the milk tanker truck that got overturned ...

 
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And NRA-ILA posted this on Friday in response pointing out that Beto O'Rourke now wants to take away all semi-auto firearms - https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...-shows-why-gun-owners-must-reject-appeasement

Beto’s Confiscation Plan Shows Why Gun Owners Must Reject Appeasement

Gun confiscation is the goal. Gun confiscation has always been the goal. Thanks to a recent outburst by 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Robert (Beto) Francis O’Rourke, potentially millions more Americans are now aware of this fact.

On September 12, a visibly deranged Beto told the viewers of an ABC News Democratic primary debate, “Hell, yes, we’re going to take your AR-15, your AK-47.” As has become custom among the more frivolous candidates, the Beto campaign was selling a t-shirt with the intemperate statement later that evening. According to the Associated Press, on September 19 Beto stated that he is open to broadening his plan to include all semi-automatic firearms.

Beto’s comments have drawn criticism from some Democrats. However, it is instructive that the Democratic criticism appeared to be more about the former congressman’s strategy than the substance of his plan; they prefer confiscation that is well-cooked instead of raw.

Sad that Beto’s candor might foil his more subtle approach to identical gun control efforts, Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) told CNN, “I frankly think that that clip will be played for years at Second Amendment rallies with organizations that try to scare people by saying Democrats are coming for your guns,” adding, “We need to focus on what we can get done.” CNN quoted a “Democratic aide” as saying that Beto’s debate statement “only feeds into the NRA's narrative that Democrats are going to take away your guns.”

In other words: Stop it Beto. You’re spoiling the ending.

Beto’s bombastic delivery of their confiscation agenda even shamed the legacy media, who have long been complicit in obfuscating gun control advocates’ political aims. In response, the media was forced shine unwanted light upon the gun controllers’ confiscatory plans. As the editors of the National Review noticed, “For years, advocates of the right to keep and bear arms have suspected that confiscation was the endgame but have been rebuffed as paranoiacs in the press. Such a rebuffing is no longer possible.”

The National Review editors appreciated what NRA members already know: confiscation has long been apparent to those paying sufficient attention. The only surprise for Democrats was Beto’s failure to follow their long-standing script. Others seem to be slipping in kind:

In May, former 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) did something similar while writing an op-ed for USA Today in which he described his plan to confiscate commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms. Making clear that he would imprison those who did not comply, Swalwell wrote, “we should criminally prosecute any who choose to defy it by keeping their weapons.”

Later that month, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) called for gun confiscation during an interview with CNN. When asked by anchor Poppy Harlow if that meant that otherwise law-abiding Americans would be imprisoned for failing to comply with his confiscation plan, Booker merely responded, “[w]e should have a law that bans these weapons and we should have a reasonable period in which people can turn in these weapons.”

In September, Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) expressed her support for gun confiscation. At an appearance on “The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon,” Harris called confiscation “a good idea” and told the audience that “we need to do it the right way.”

The gun controllers’ refrain is international. In reaction to the March 15 terrorist attack in Christchurch, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern took unilateral measures to restrict firearms and Kiwi lawmakers enacted legislation to ban possession of semi-automatic centerfire rifles and many semi-automatic and pump-action shotguns. The country’s gun control scheme provided for the confiscation of lawfully-possessed firearms.

U.S. anti-gun politicians cheered Ardern’s confiscation effort. Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) stated via Twitter, “This is what real action to stop gun violence looks like. We must follow New Zealand's lead, take on the NRA and ban the sale and distribution of assault weapons in the United States.” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) tweeted, “Christchurch happened, and within days New Zealand acted to get weapons of war out of the consumer market. This is what leadership looks like.”

In recent years, gun control rallies have been littered with signs calling for firearms confiscation and the repeal of the Second Amendment. The great and good have written countless thought pieces calling for gun confiscation or an amendment to the Constitution to eliminate recognition of the right to keep and bear arms. The New York Times used a frontpage editorial to call for gun confiscation.

Of course, the gun confiscation agenda didn’t start with the 2020 election cycle.

In 2015, failed 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton expressed her support for Australia-style gun confiscation. When asked about Australia’s confiscation scheme at a town hall in Keene, N.H., Clinton noted, “I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national level if that could be arranged.” Clinton added, “I don’t know enough details to tell you … how we would do it or how it would work, but certainly the Australian example is worth looking at.”

In 2013, President Barack Obama pointed to Australia and the UK’s confiscatory gun control regimes in calling for a “transformation” of American gun laws. In 2014, Obama again pointed to Australia as an example for America during a Tumblr Q&A session. After describing his failure to enact gun control as the “biggest frustration” of his presidency, Obama stated, “A couple of decades ago, Australia had a mass shooting… And Australia just said, well, that’s it, we’re not seeing that again. And basically imposed very severe, tough gun laws.”

Decades ago, gun control advocates were just as explicit about their confiscation goals as many of the Democratic presidential candidates are today. They refuse to accept the benefits of gun ownership, and yet they’re the ones attacking the stubbornness of the Second Amendment?

In a 1995 interview with 60 Minutes, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) expressed her support for gun confiscation. While discussing the 1994 Clinton semi-automatic ban, Feinstein stated, “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them—‘Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in,’ I would have done it.”

In the 1970s, groups like National Council to Control Handguns (later named Handgun Control, Inc. then Brady) openly called for a ban on the civilian possession of handguns. NCCH Chairman Pete Shields went so far as to explain how gun control advocates would bring about confiscation. In a 1976 interview with the New Yorker, Shields stated,

I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily—given the political realities—going to be very modest… So then we’ll have to start working again to strengthen that law and then again to strengthen the next law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal—total control of handguns in the United States—is going to take time.

An understanding that gun control advocates seek firearms confiscation must inform the entire gun control debate. As Shields pointed out, gun control measures build upon each other and facilitate the more extreme controls that anti-gun advocates have admitted they seek to enact.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) pointed this out during a recent appearance on ABC’s This Week while explaining why gun rights supporters oppose so-called “universal” background check legislation. Cruz stated,

As soon as you have every person private to private transaction. If you have a grandfather giving his grandson a shotgun to go bird hunting. If you have a federal government background check for that, what you will see the next step to be is the only way to enforce that is a federal gun registry, and a gun registry is the step you need for gun confiscation… you know we now have three of the ten Democratic presidential candidates actively advocating for gun confiscation. They are saying the federal government is going to come forcibly take your gun.

Cruz’s analysis of the situation was spot on. Gun control legislation that requires all private firearms transfers to take place pursuant to federal government interference is a necessary component for facilitating anti-gun politicians’ confiscation plans.

Gun control advocates have made themselves clear. Their efforts are not about “background checks,” or keeping guns away from “dangerous” individuals, or any other so-called “commonsense gun safety” measures.

They are not operating in good faith.

The gun control movement is about civilian disarmament through firearms confiscation. Beto simply let their cat out of the bag.

He also wants to LICENSE all firearms.
 
I think Beto O'Rourke just became the best spokesperson for gun rights/2A. :thumbup:

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He also wants to LICENSE all firearms.

Beto is not the only one, Licensing was originally Warren's idea.

Senator Warren has something special in store for those who don't vote for your RKBA in 2020:

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Elizabeth Warren's New Plan On Guns Has A Goal: Reduce Gun Deaths By 80%:
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/10/7499...an-on-guns-has-a-goal-reduce-gun-deaths-by-80

Elizabeth Warren on Gun Control
Handguns kill 8 kids a day; why don't we mobilize?
Extend the federal assault weapons ban
Supports gun control
Voted YES on banning high-capacity magazines of over 10 bullets.
Supports restricting the Second Amendment.
https://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Elizabeth_Warren_Gun_Control.htm


Confiscation is the public position of ALL of the other Democrat candidates and the private opinion of the rest. Biden is also in favor of buybacks.

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Democrats push mandatory federal buyback of ‘assault weapons’; prosecution for owners who don’t comply:
http://www.gopusa.com/Democrats-pus...apons-prosecution-for-owners-who-dont-comply/


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Among Democrats, 'Mandatory Gun Buyback' Plan Gains Traction:
https://pjmedia.com/trending/among-Democrats-mandatory-gun-buyback-plan-gains-traction/

Biden says he's coming for assault weapons, as 2020 Dems urge new ban in wake of shootings:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-assault-weapons-ban-shootings

Joe Biden: Banning Assault Weapons Works
That’s why, as president, I will push to ban them again.:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/11/opinion/joe-biden-ban-assault-weapons.html

O’Rourke Supports Mandatory Gun Buyback Program:
https://freebeacon.com/politics/orourke-supports-mandatory-gun-buyback-program/

Klobuchar: Mandatory gun buybacks is not gun confiscation:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/klobuchar-mandatory-gun-buybacks-is-not-gun-confiscation
 
Beto has never been, and is not now, a serious contender for the highest office in the land. Don't stress.

I call BS on that. While all of you are giggling and pointing fingers at the class(less) clown Beto, he almost smoked TED CRUZ here in Texas at the last election. Granted, Cruz ran a terrible campaign, and I actually consider him damaged goods after the 2016 election, but the results show Beto is for real. No, I agree... he is not even close to presidential, but given a choice between him and President Trump... the libs would walk on broken glass to vote for Beto. The Establishment doesn't like him, because he is too stupid to not say things he shouldn't, but he has a base of support; as the field winnows down, if he is lucky enough to still be around. For that matter, the radical Left loves him... because he IS saying what they believe.

Of course, back in 2007, I was scratching my head and wondering... who is this nobody from Illinois? There is no way he is electable...
 
NRA crowns Beto O'Rourke AR-15 salesman of the month: "Possibly even of the year" - https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...lesman-of-the-month-possibly-even-of-the-year

"The NRA labeled ... Beto O'Rourke the 'AR-15 salesman of the month' ... could even be the AR-15 salesman of the year. :D

'We will NEVER turn in our AR-15s. We are law-abiding Americans who fight to protect our Second Amendment so we can effectively defend ourselves, our communities, and our loved ones' :thumbup:

When asked about the enforcement of his plan ... O'Rourke said he believes American gun owners will ... turn them in. If not, then they will be fined in order to 'compel' them to hand the rifles over to the government. He further told MSNBC his proposal is constitutional." :eek:

Maybe he still believes in the tooth fairly and the Easter bunny? :rofl:
 
There's a lot of comments I would like to make, but I know that on THIS forum politics is a no-no. I wish they had a separate politic forum, but I doubt it is happening anytime soon.
My thoughts about folks like Beto, Hillary, Fauxahontas, Bernie, et al would get me so banned I will refrain. But I agree with the subtle messages you folks are saying......:thumbup:
 
There's a lot of comments I would like to make ... My thoughts about folks like Beto, Hillary, Fauxahontas, Bernie, et al would get me so banned I will refrain.

I wish they had a separate politic forum, but I doubt it is happening anytime soon.
Your wish has already been granted.

THR administrator already created another forum where political talk/rant is not only allowed, but encouraged - https://notechtyranny.com/index.php?threads/welcome-thr-folks.11/

Have fun! :D
 
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Beto needs to be forced to spend a weekend on the south side of Chicago or in East St. Louis, IL
Mayor Byrne of Chicago once visited (lived in?) the projects in Chicago. It had the character of Hitler visiting Paris. Her bodyguards had bodyguards. Most Caribbean countries had fewer people on the ground with firearms.

Expect that Francis will do likewise.
 
Klobuchar: Mandatory gun buybacks is not gun confiscation
To be fair, in the last debate Klobuchar said she was for voluntary buybacks and against mandatory ones. This set her apart from some of the others. There's a world of difference between these two things. (Maybe she's among those, like Chuck Schumer, who are continuing to hide the ball. O'Rourke has pulled the rug out from that wing of the Democratic party. He's left them in an untenable position.)
 
What's he going to do when we don't pay the fines? Nuke us?
He will hear us out, give us more attention and we get a "time out" - https://www.healthychildren.org/Eng...discipline/Pages/Disciplining-Your-Child.aspx

Klobuchar said she was for voluntary buybacks and against mandatory ones ... Maybe she's among those, like Chuck Schumer, who are continuing to hide the ball. O'Rourke has pulled the rug out from that wing of the Democratic party. He's left them in an untenable position.
Ooops, too late. The cat's out of the bag and a HUGE amount of milk has been spilled and cannot be returned. So any "talk" of compromise or "sensible/reasonable" gun control will be seen as BS by everyone and will be moot. Beto showed their hands and the entire world has already seen the cards.


And, I would love for Beto O'Rourke (or any of the Democrat candidates) to go attend a rape victims support group meeting and tell them they do not have the right to defend themselves from rapists with firearms. In fact, Trump should attend such support group meeting and tell them they absolutely have the right to self defense.
 
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Long before "assault weapons" I really hate that term, came into the focus of anti gun groups, banning handguns was their main focus. They will or would still go after handguns after the fact. The only thing they really think you should be allowed to own is maybe a double barrel shotgun.
 
Long before "assault weapons" I really hate that term, came into the focus of anti gun groups, banning handguns was their main focus. They will or would still go after handguns after the fact. The only thing they really think you should be allowed to own is maybe a double barrel shotgun.
Yep, remember the "Saturday Night Special" bans..?
 
Long before "assault weapons" I really hate that term, came into the focus of anti gun groups, banning handguns was their main focus. They will or would still go after handguns after the fact. The only thing they really think you should be allowed to own is maybe a double barrel shotgun.
Yep, and don't y'all forget it.
 
It is kind of funny to me, when people I meet from here who live in NH, say things like - I wish I could do this or that, but you can't do this or that - and I point out that all those this and thats the person is mentioning are 100% their right and 100% legal, they are honestly shocked and don't believe me - so, I tell them to look it up. They all come back to me and say, I had no idea you could do that. They are shocked you don't need a permit to carry, or can have a pistol in your glove box, loaded. (this is my understanding, I am not a lawyer, or advising this, just my understanding of legal, do your own research)

My perspective is if people aren't exercising their rights, they soon forget what they even are … not just gun rights, but all of them - and on TV they are just so distorted is what people say rights are or are not, no wonder people can't figure anything out - and that IMHO is part of the game.
 
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