Outlaw75
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Can anyone tell me anything about this ammo? I've got 1000 rounds that I picked up back during the famine. Never shot it. Their website gives a velocity of 1086 f/s out of a 25" bbl. No drop data.
Can anyone tell me anything about this ammo? I've got 1000 rounds that I picked up back during the famine. Never shot it. Their website gives a velocity of 1086 f/s out of a 25" bbl. No drop data.
It really all depends on what you expect out of the RWS TR in terms of accuracy. Generally higher the price, the better the consistency. I shoot CCI SV a fair amount and it is okay for me. It is sort of my benchmark ammo with Remington Golden Bullets being the low end standard. My HV shooter stuff is Federal 510's which I like overall. That is pretty much what I load up for plinking sessions.
I have some old PMC Moderators that I just love out of my TC Lynx (like the classic); sub half inch groups at 50 yds are the norm. I don't even test it in other rifles as I have a finite supply (a couple cases) and save it for the TC.
If you shoot other 22 ammo and want to preserve those two cartons, just use it for testing. I would compare it directly to CCI SV personally.
What 22 rifles are you shooting? What is your normal 22 ammo?
That's only 13 feet. Easy to account for... the wind is another matter.If you are zeroed at 50 it will be about 156 inches low at 300 yards.
I guess I'll ask.... why do you keep count of rounds fired and the type/brand/variety of ammunition? Regardless that is still a lot of shooting. You didn't say how they shoot however to characterize beyond "good ammo".It's good ammo, reasonably priced and suitable for a suppressed rifle.
I have fired enough of this ammo to come to this conclusion:
On one R55 Benchmark rifle: 17505 rounds
On another R55 Benchmark rifle: 5577 rounds
On a SIG522 rifle: 1170 rounds
On a 10/22 type rifle (receiver machined in the UK): 10750 rounds
For a grand total of 35002 rounds, most of that was shooting suppressed. That doesn't include rounds fired on other people's guns or club guns.
So how many rounds are you typically shooting from a case (5,000) to test suppressors? I'm a fan of the TC R55 rifles. I have the Lynx which is sort of like the All Weather R55. And they really do shoot half-inch groups at 50 yds with ammo they like.Correction, the oldest R55 has no failure rates, only ammo totals. The other R55 has failure rates, as does a SIG522 (which I have since sold) and the 10/22 clone.
Between those four rifles, I have fired or supervised firing of exactly 86523 rounds. Most of those rounds were fired from 2013 onwards.
Target Rifle is one of RWS's lowest target offerings. It's mid-grade ammo, so some boxes and lots are better than others. It's two star ammo per RWS's grading (with five being the best in R50). In their own literature, it's graded as "26mm" ammo. Ten shots at 50m out of their test barrel attained a maximum of 26mm. It is my opinion that any lot that groups bigger than 26mm (that doesn't make RWS TR) is tossed into RWS Club boxes, or as most people know it: "Geco Rifle."
In my testing, the accuracy of RWS TR bears out. My rolling average for the ammo (5 shot groups at 50 yards) is .904". It has a considerable amount of lube on it, but not so much as say, SK Magazine.
The quality will vary, depending on the boxes you have. In my testing, some boxes of 50 cartridges can be reasonably good. The best box of 50 that I have tested was ES 63fps, SD 13. However, the box right next to that one in the same brick had an ES of over 250fps, which included an 850fps cartridge and one over 1100fps.
If you examine the cartridges themselves, you can see that the bearing surface isn't as consistent as higher grades of ammo. Many times, it's obvious that Target Rifle is overcrimped since there is visible skirting of the bullet. If you have higher graded cartridges to compare, it is easier to see the external imperfections that make RWS TR the lower graded ammo.
It is also widely known that RWS TR and Norma TAC 22 are the same ammo, just in different boxes, if you have ever used the latter.
All in all, RWS TR is ... well... just ok. It's better than bulk ammos, like Federal, CCI, even SV (flame away), Remington (except the offerings that Eley makes for them), or anything that Winchester makes.
But, on average, it will not attain ES's of 40fps or less that higher graded ammos can in order to shoot the smallest groups.
So, don't fall for cherry picked groups on mid grade ammo. The smallest group I've ever shot with RWS TR is .259", but it averages .904" for me.
Half of the magic in match ammo is the lube....Hold on to match ammo too long and the lube dries up and accuracy goes out the window.....Something to consider when talking about ammo several years old.