silvermane_1
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Heir Kommt Die Sonne you could alway get a conversion kit in 40 S&W, it would be cheaper than a whole gun, some 9mms can be somewhat easy to convert to 40 S&W, however the easiest conversion is a 357 SIG to 40 S&W or visa versa.
Why is it so hard to find 40 S&W handguns lately?
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Heir Kommt Die Sonne
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Yes I considered this a while ago. However I figured it'd just be cheaper to buy a surplus .40 , as conversion kits are quite expensive.
Most conversions require the slide to be replaced to, so for me that's like buying another gun.
Could you give me a list of handguns that can convert just by swapping the barrel?
Robbins290
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Depends on the maker, glocks and M&P's are just barrel swaps. And barrels are 100 bucks or less. Factory 9mm barrels work for the M&P. and conversion barrels are cheaper enough for the glocks. Have been using both the factory M&P barrel and lone wolfs for glocks for 10 years or so. And countless rounds. Never had issues besides a few failure to feeds with the 40 mags.
Partially a gun cycle. 1911's used to be primarily Colt, Kimber, SA, then EVERYONE had to make 1911s.
While 9mm defense ammo has improved, really the market has shifted to subcompact CCW. Which means manufacturers are designing the guns around the smaller 9mm. And we have learned small 9mm frames cannot simply receive a .40 barrel and work well.
With magazine capacity restrictions, ammo purchase laws, and more manufacturers making revolvers I'm wondering how those sales have increased or are increasing? Love my .44 special revolvers but they are limited to hiking, boats, and car gun for variuos reasons.
While 9mm defense ammo has improved, really the market has shifted to subcompact CCW. Which means manufacturers are designing the guns around the smaller 9mm. And we have learned small 9mm frames cannot simply receive a .40 barrel and work well.
With magazine capacity restrictions, ammo purchase laws, and more manufacturers making revolvers I'm wondering how those sales have increased or are increasing? Love my .44 special revolvers but they are limited to hiking, boats, and car gun for variuos reasons.
Mizar
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Guys, you can't convert a 9mm Luger to .40 by just swapping barrels - .40 S&W breechface is wider than a 9mm one because of the bigger cartridge. The case will simply not fit.
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Heir Kommt Die Sonne
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But you can swap a .40 barrel to a 9mm easily. So that explains why every 9mm conversion I've seen requires the whole slide to be replaced.
BSA1
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SIG has stopped making the P239 so finding one may be a challenge. I certainly will not pay $904 for one.
The other problem is how proud SIG is of it’s magazines. (Yes I am whining).
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Mizar
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Sure you can, but the results will not always be great, just because of the different breechfaces. In a nutshell - if you want a self-defense gun, then go with the original caliber the gun was designed for. If just for fun, then do whatever pleases you.
Robbins290
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I was refering
Conversion barrels have the profile of a 40 barrel. But in 9mm. They have been working great in the g22’s and a g23. Tho i so agree. Range use only. I would not trust my life on it
Conversion barrels have the profile of a 40 barrel. But in 9mm. They have been working great in the g22’s and a g23. Tho i so agree. Range use only. I would not trust my life on it
Elkins45
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There’s a P239 in 40 with three mags on Gunbroker at an attractive price at the moment. Its a DAK so that may not appeal to you. It’s on my watch list. If I were seriously in the market for a P239 I would give it some consideration.
Mizar
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Newer (relatively speaking) Glocks have an angled hook extractor that has a bigger travel - so it can serve as a loaded chamber indicator. This helps when positioning the spent casing at the end of the cycle as it (by design) moves more and can grip the case better than conventional extractors and push it against the breechface wall. Not many pistol extractors have such a design and that can lead to problems - failures to eject. But, this is only valid for 9mm to .40 conversions, not that other pistols have inferior extractors by design - they are working just fine when used in the correct caliber. In other words, LCI Glock extractors are designed simply for convenience of the shooter (to see if loaded) and the added benefit of caliber swaps is just a coincidence, nothing more.
MosinT53Hunter
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CDNN has a number of Sig's in 40.
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Heir Kommt Die Sonne
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Think I know which one you're talking about... I'm on the verge of getting that one when the next score of Hamiltons (10 $ ) come in.
Robbins290
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If you are on gun broker, check out some of the online retailers. 40's are stupid cheap right now. I am no fan of the 40. But i ended up with 6 in the past year. All for 350 for less brand new.
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I'm not going to bother arguing with those who think .40 is "obsolete" or "dead" because it seems twice a week on every gun forum any time .40 is brought up the same words used by 9mm and .45 fanboys is the same.
It's not hard to find .40 S&W pistols if you know where to look online. Gunbroker is chock full of Glock 40s among others, but if your goal is a cheap .40 that's cheap because it's .40, I think the prices have gone as low as they're going to and the closer we get to the election, the more the prices are going to go up.
I hear you on getting a steel frame .40 that's DA/SA or DAO tho, I'm looking at S&W and Kahr online and the prices are hard to believe for what are high quality pistols. Given I have 3 guns in .40 and a bunch of ammo, I see no reason to dump them and switch to 9mm. That's not to say I don't have 9mm guns, I do, but when it comes to a steel frame pistol, I see no reason to buy one in 9mm over .40, 10mm, or .45. The recoil with 9mm in poly frame pistols is low enough.
Speaking of low recoil, I think with all the cheap .40s around, what would become very popular is low recoil .40 ammo using projectile weights similar to 9mm. The overwhelming majority of .40 ammo is 165 and 180 grain, there is some 135 and 155 grain ammo out there, but it's not common or cheap, the 135 grain ammo is usually $1/round.
It's not hard to find .40 S&W pistols if you know where to look online. Gunbroker is chock full of Glock 40s among others, but if your goal is a cheap .40 that's cheap because it's .40, I think the prices have gone as low as they're going to and the closer we get to the election, the more the prices are going to go up.
I hear you on getting a steel frame .40 that's DA/SA or DAO tho, I'm looking at S&W and Kahr online and the prices are hard to believe for what are high quality pistols. Given I have 3 guns in .40 and a bunch of ammo, I see no reason to dump them and switch to 9mm. That's not to say I don't have 9mm guns, I do, but when it comes to a steel frame pistol, I see no reason to buy one in 9mm over .40, 10mm, or .45. The recoil with 9mm in poly frame pistols is low enough.
Speaking of low recoil, I think with all the cheap .40s around, what would become very popular is low recoil .40 ammo using projectile weights similar to 9mm. The overwhelming majority of .40 ammo is 165 and 180 grain, there is some 135 and 155 grain ammo out there, but it's not common or cheap, the 135 grain ammo is usually $1/round.
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Everyone has their own likes. Look at the Nagant revolver. Yah, the round is very obsolete, but people keep buying them and the ammo. I reload for 9mm Largo. I like odd ammo.
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Everyone has their own likes. Look at the Nagant revolver. Yah, the round is very obsolete, but people keep buying them and the ammo. I reload for 9mm Largo. I like odd ammo.
I also like the nagant round. And 762x39 is the round i like the most. Its even part of my email address. Wish someone could make some new modern firearms for the older classic. While they are at it. Throw in a 9x18 and 9mm largo.
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A modern rifle for the 7.62x25 is my dream gun.
7.62x39 is a great round too, had my 1916 Spanish Mauser converted to it, and to top it off, made it look likethe FR-7 mauser.
(barrel kit from Numrich)
mrmike7189
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I found a Ruger P94 in 40 cal.
for $295 a couple years ago (and it is a good gun like mentioned earlier.)
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R_P_K
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Go to Summit GunBroker. Fantastic police trade in 4006's
Okay first of all 40 cals ARE still being made but if I were you I would avoid Sig as their customer service is Horrible and their quality control has sunk
Here in Virginia the market is flooded with very nice gently used 40 cals and a man can barely get rid of one for a fair price!
I'd recommend a Springfield XDM or a Ruger SR40C
You can also get fantastic deals on new ones online
Here in Virginia the market is flooded with very nice gently used 40 cals and a man can barely get rid of one for a fair price!
I'd recommend a Springfield XDM or a Ruger SR40C
You can also get fantastic deals on new ones online
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Perhaps a punctuation confusion or perhaps a typo, but the Ruger SR Series are striker fired and not hammer fired.
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