slug or 00 buckshot, which more fatal

Slug or 00 buckshot, which more fatal?

  • Slug

    Votes: 24 72.7%
  • 00 buckshot

    Votes: 9 27.3%

  • Total voters
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The best thing I can suggest is to go somewhere you can shoot alone, a gravel pit, dead-end dirt road, or out in the desert and work this stuff out for yourself. Bring a truckload of different targets that will answer all kinds of questions, and be sure to truck it all out when you're finished.
100%. We could talk about this forever or you can grab some shells and some stuff to shoot and make up your own mind, you will certainly need a lot of practice if you plan to use a ksg for defense, not a horrible gun but almost any other shotgun will have more intuative controls and be a bit easier to operate. You will do just fine, get out there and see what feels ok to you and gives the effect you desire. If you aren't an experienced shooter i doubt you will like the recoil of either a slug or 00 buck but theres only one way to find out.
 
Your question is all over the place. Point blank range is mentioned, then you ask about hunting? What game are you getting within arms distance of to shoot? Some deaf, blind deer with no sense of smell?

In any case it all depends on range. Close distance, 00 buck. Depending on pattern, load etc distance of 75 yards or more? Slugs.

Solution is buy a $5 stock cuff and carry shells of both. Shotguns are a Jack of all trades, master of none.
 
I don't know maybe hang some pork legs meat up and shoot, or have some watermelons line up and shoot at point blank?

I'm 5 feet tall, so unless there is a shotgun at is 26 inches in length like the Kel-Tec KSG, or else I will have a hard time holding it. Are there any shotgun out there beside KSG that is 26 inches long? I went to the gun shop and the shortest length shotgun I found was the KSG one.

Thank you very very much to everyone help give me advice in this thread. Sorry for the bothering.
 
I don't know maybe hang some pork legs meat up and shoot, or have some watermelons line up and shoot at point blank?

I'm 5 feet tall, so unless there is a shotgun at is 26 inches in length like the Kel-Tec KSG, or else I will have a hard time holding it. Are there any shotgun out there beside KSG that is 26 inches long? I went to the gun shop and the shortest length shotgun I found was the KSG one.

Thank you very very much to everyone help give me advice in this thread. Sorry for the bothering.
The term you're looking for is" length of pull". That is the distance from where your hand holds the gun to where the butt pad is attached, overall length is in no way limited by your height. Many youth shotguns out there ,also many options to change a stock to something that will fit you well.
 
One thing for certain, a shotgun is a extremely versatile weapon. And to think one can shoot rimfire and center fire cartridge's out of the same barrel kind of blows "Me" away. The little Midland single shot has sparked my interest more than just about any of the firearms out there to include pistols, revolvers etc. And now with a new MIdland and scope mount, I am looking forward to see how well it does with a scope. Here is a pic of shotgun shooting 9mm ammo. Bottom picture was with a fat fiber optic, the top after taking off the fiber optic and going with just a bead sight at 25 yds. I have been shooting mostly Buckshot all summer, but this fall will be attaching the scope. And the fact that this Little gun cost about $150.00 is kind of unheard of in the gun world. "The Little Train that Could".


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I'd take a shotgun with 00 buck for close quarters self-defense any day of the week. Obviously not the most convenient weapon in every scenario but easily the most physically and psychologically devastating to my mind.
 
I don't know anything about amo, please forgive me for my question, I would love to hear everyone insight and advice on this. Thank you in advance.

So let say you using a Kel-Tec KSG or shotgun in general. If at point-blank, which are more fatal, slug or 00 buckshot?

From what I know at point-blank, buckshot don't even expand much, so it like slug. But then slug penetrate more. If looking for fatal, would expansion matter more than penetration? But I still think slug is better at point-blank.

Please help. And wouldn't the 000 buckshot be more powerful than the 00 ones?

For HD/SD, stick with low base shot - #4B -> 00B.

You don't need high base loads and there commensurate recoil, or the external ballistics (and excessive penetration) of a slug.

I like this #1B from Federal, with the flight control wad, in case the required shots are longer.






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The answer to your question which is more fatal is...it depends.

There are only 3 ways a mammal dies from a gunshot wound:

1. A hit to the heart. Shuts down the pump.
2. A hit to the medulla oblongata which controls heartbeat and breathing functions. Shuts down the the central processing unit.
3. It bleeds out. The most common cause of death from a gunshot wound. How fast death occurs depends on how fast they bled out.

You might add a fourth way and that's if both lungs are penetrated causing inability to supply oxygen to the rest of the body. That's related to the three causes I listed. Add the fourth if you want.

Being number 3 is the most common it makes sense that the more holes you put in something the faster it will bleed out. Using a 3" shell will make 12 holes instead of 8 or 9. I prefer low recoil 00 loads for controllability. Anything hit with 8 or 9 pieces of 00 buck at 1100 fps will swear it was hit with 12 at 1300 fps. This will make more holes in the target most likely causing it to bleed out faster if major blood vessels are hit or the conditions of number 1 or 2 are met.

Most SD shotguns are cylinder bore, no choke. Buckshot spreads about an inch per yard. It also tends to "donut" as the range increases. Low recoil ammo has less or a tendency to do this. If you're shooting full power 00 buck at 25 yards the spread is about 24". You may be holding dead on a miss completely. Slugs are a better idea past 15 yards in most cases.

Hunting it depends on what you're shooting, what choke youre using, and the range. I'd feel confident in taking out a rabbit at 7 yds with a load of 00 buck. A bear requires more penetration and for that a slug would be my choice.

So the answer to your question is...it depends.
 
I don't know maybe hang some pork legs meat up and shoot, or have some watermelons line up and shoot at point blank?

I'm 5 feet tall, so unless there is a shotgun at is 26 inches in length like the Kel-Tec KSG, or else I will have a hard time holding it. Are there any shotgun out there beside KSG that is 26 inches long? I went to the gun shop and the shortest length shotgun I found was the KSG one.


Thank you very very much to everyone help give me advice in this thread. Sorry for the bothering.

I shot Trap leagues with a girl who was 4'11" (1" less than you) and she shot a Winchester Model 12 Trap with a 30" inch barrel, making the overall length not much less than her height. That shotgun also weighed about 9 1/2 pounds, and she shot 4-6 rounds of trap (100-150 shells) each night 4 night a week. So suck it up, buttercup.
 
To answer OP's question, taking account of your precisions, buckshot. See labtoni's posts for relevant factual explanations. As for your choice of range toy, even if it is strange to me, who am I to judge? A range toy is just that. Whatever floats your boat.
I will however mention, because you are admittedly new to firearms, that a .22 LR rifle is a little more common for informal plinking at the nearby sandpit. It is also well suited for a short person in many instances. These rifles are quite often short and light, and produce minimal recoil when shot.
 
At HD distance, and most any other anti-personnel scenario, buckshot is the right choice. Slugs are for deer hunting in places that restrict rifles.
 
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