Glock who?

Jeb Stuart said:

And even the above factors, more than anything, come down to simple familiarity."

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With any of them, familiarity is what makes "most" of the supposed bad things melt away.

Nothing is ever going to be "perfect", but the more time you spend actually shooting and handling different things, the better they seem to become. Or at least, the things you originally thought were bad or impossible, usually end up being not even noticeable.

Id be willing to bet, that the majority of people who bitch about or claim to hate this or that, tend to be one-trick pony shooters, and never really bothered to put the time and effort in with anything else to know what they dont know.

We all have our favorites, and thats a given. Im not saying you have to like anything you dont like either. If you arent willing to explore and learn new things, you lose the opportunity to expand your horizons and learn, and youll never know if there "might" be something better.

I don't like Glock for myself.

But I try to talk most new shooters into giving them a go since they are pretty legendary.

But I also let average Glock shooters use my non-Glocks, and amazingly most (maybe 3 outta 4) shoot my Turkish knockoffs better than their Glocks

AK103K said:

With any of them, familiarity is what makes "most" of the supposed bad things melt away.

Nothing is ever going to be "perfect", but the more time you spend actually shooting and handling different things, the better they seem to become. Or at least, the things you originally thought were bad or impossible, usually end up being not even noticeable.

Id be willing to bet, that the majority of people who bitch about or claim to hate this or that, tend to be one-trick pony shooters, and never really bothered to put the time and effort in with anything else to know what they dont know.

We all have our favorites, and thats a given. Im not saying you have to like anything you dont like either. If you arent willing to explore and learn new things, you lose the opportunity to expand your horizons and learn, and youll never know if there "might" be something better.

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IDK, I think pretty much everyone here and most in the firearm community have tried, experimented, carried, and owned pistols from multiple manufacturers, so they base what they like and don't like off of their experiences. Sure anyone can get better and work through/with any original concerns, but with the plethora of options currently available on the market at historically low prices, I reckon most do see the point in settling.

AK103K said:

With any of them, familiarity is what makes "most" of the supposed bad things melt away.

Nothing is ever going to be "perfect", but the more time you spend actually shooting and handling different things, the better they seem to become. Or at least, the things you originally thought were bad or impossible, usually end up being not even noticeable.

Id be willing to bet, that the majority of people who bitch about or claim to hate this or that, tend to be one-trick pony shooters, and never really bothered to put the time and effort in with anything else to know what they dont know.

We all have our favorites, and thats a given. Im not saying you have to like anything you dont like either. If you arent willing to explore and learn new things, you lose the opportunity to expand your horizons and learn, and youll never know if there "might" be something better.

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Ok, perfect example. Here are two guns basically the same. New model had a different grip. But the Grips are interchangeable. I have two of the guns with two different grips. Now there are many of fans of these two guns that adamantly say the one grip is better than the other. BS it is strictly a matter of opinion and will be decided by the shooter not the internet. And do not think I have not tried out the new grip. My Gosh I have ran hundreds of rounds through both in trying to make a decision. Yes, I do have familiarity with the straighter grip of the Nano than the newer grip of the APX. But do not think I have not been trying both out. And the fact that I like the Nano grip over the APX really infuriates many of the fans.
Here is another fact. I spent more than 6 months shooting as many different guns as possible in order to find out what I like best or my perfect fit. I think many of us have shot many guns in the quest to find their near perfect gun.

Yes, I would agree to try out other guns in a quest to fine YOUR perfect gun and to be open minded. In fact, I was quick to try out the 365 for example before I made any comments on the gun. But for gosh sake, if someone does not like the grip you like, or the trigger than just move on. I am not saying which one is better, I am saying which one is better for me after trying both out. And for some, that is just not right. You should like the grip we like.



I am not a Glock Fan, only because it does not fit my hand the way I like. Does that make the Glock a bad gun? NO! Have you tried out this to see if your Glock runs better? (just saw this on another thread). Should people that already love the Glock the way it is, invest in this product to find to out if it runs even better? Or those that do not like the Glock Grip try it out?

Actually I have always wanted a Glock, but always get Trigger finger bite. Maybe this product will help with it. But at this point to not want to buy one to just try out. Maybe someone at my Club has one and I can. I look forward to trying.
One thing about the APX grip, my finger protruded to far out the gun. The Straighter grip did not and gives me perfect finger control.

I have found that there are a couple ways to deal with unhappiness with Glock stock triggers.

One is to simply polish a few contact points inside the trigger. There are numerous youtubes showing how to do the .25 cent Glock Trigger job.

Another way is to buy a competition spring kit, I think I paid last about $35 really improved the trigger.

There are many drop in triggers available, this is going to cost some bux, I have in one of my G17s a Vogel I think it was about $150

The most expensive way to deal with a stock Glock trigger in my personal experience is to buy a Springfield Armory XDm. That gun has a stock trigger that makes the Glock seem like a match grade trigger.

thomas15 said:

I have found that there are a couple ways to deal with unhappiness with Glock stock triggers.

One is to simply polish a few contact points inside the trigger. There are numerous youtubes showing how to do the .25 cent Glock Trigger job.

Another way is to buy a competition spring kit, I think I paid last about $35 really improved the trigger.

There are many drop in triggers available, this is going to cost some bux, I have in one of my G17s a Vogel I think it was about $150

The most expensive way to deal with a stock Glock trigger in my personal experience is to buy a Springfield Armory XDm. That gun has a stock trigger that makes the Glock seem like a match grade trigger.

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What if you do not want a match grade trigger? Especially in a Carry gun.

I was in the LGS the other day and wanted to trade my Ruger LC9S. The clerk quickly said. "Hey, how do you like Glocks? I thought this was funny and just laughed and say, they are fine guns but prefer others. He then said, what do you think about their Triggers? I laughed again and just said, they are fine, but just want to look around on my own and will find a gun I want. I have no idea what he was going to lead me to, but thought for sure it was going to be some super duper striker fired Trigger that was as light as a feather, broke like glass and has a super duper short reset. Or one the the Latest FAD guns now on the market. I walked out with a used Kahr CM9 in mint condition. (now my second one).
The point, I do not want the internet telling me what trigger or gun to buy, nor a clerk at a LGS. Yet many do.

And also interesting is how many times I have walked up to a Counter and the Clerk goes right into a spiel about a Glock.

Jeb Stuart said:

What if you do not want a match grade trigger? Especially in a Carry gun.

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Amazingly, some Glocks come with higher trigger weights to satisfy certain jurisdictions. I once found a great deal on a G35 that came with 10-round magazines. Turns out, it was a MA compliant pistol and had nearly a 10lb trigger.

You can buy pretty much anything you want to set up your trigger any way you want for Glocks, which is part of their appeal. Not many guns have as many, or any, aftermarket options for trigger feel and design, and for such little money.

bdickens said:

What's great is that [many of us] live in places where we have a plethora of options available to suit pretty much everyone. Why all the stupid bickering about other's personal choices?

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For me, I don't care a bit what other people like or carry or don't. But what "triggers" me are comments that are false, stereotyping, ignorant comments. Saying that all Glocks are uncomfortable and don't fit their hand based on holding one in a gun shop 30 years ago is ignorance. Glocks have changed their grips and have fully adjustable backstraps, they come in different sizes and grip widths. Holding a G48 vs. a Gen 3 G21 is a great example. I hate the G21/G20 Gen 3 grip. It was like holding a 2x4. Then they came out with the SF version and it was better. My Gen 4 G29 is still a bit big, but tolerable.

So, saying that Glocks have blocky and uncomfortable grips is an outright lie in most cases. Saying you didn't like the grip on the G19 after trying all of the stock backstraps is a more thoughtful, truthful, and honest statement.

It's like me saying that I don't like GM vehicles because the steering wheel is too far away.

Jeb Stuart said:

I was in the LGS the other day and wanted to trade my Ruger LC9S. The clerk quickly said. "
The point, I do not want the internet telling me what trigger or gun to buy, nor a clerk at a LGS.

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We’re you wearing your super duper gun expert sash? If not then how was the clerk to recognize your expertise? Don’t you think it’s a bit rude to be snarky at someone who was attempting to help, while in a customer service role? I’m sure there are many people that go in there and do not know what they want, and generic yet productive advice is a good place to start.

Trey Veston said:

For me, I don't care a bit what other people like or carry or don't. But what "triggers" me are comments that are false, stereotyping, ignorant comments.
So, saying that Glocks have blocky and uncomfortable grips is an outright lie in most cases. Saying you didn't like the grip on the G19 after trying all of the stock backstraps is a more thoughtful, truthful, and honest statement.

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Lol.. What is it about fanboyism that makes one impervious to others opinions?

I own plenty of Glocks, (5), but can honestly see why people would dislike them for various reasons.

Calling someone a liar isn't being honest with ones own self or shows limited experience.

tarosean said:

Lol.. What is it about fanboyism that makes one impervious to others opinions?

I own plenty of Glocks, (5), but can honestly see why people would dislike them for various reasons.

Calling someone a liar isn't being honest with ones own self or shows limited experience.

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I think you completely misunderstood my entire point. The point wasn't that the particular Glock they fondled didn't fit them well, it probably didn't. No big deal. It was that saying ALL GLOCKS don't fit them well when they come in multiple sizes and grip configurations with multiple backstraps.

Call me a fanboy and say I am a noob all you want. Been carrying for 30+ years and only one of my three carry guns is a Glock.

Trey Veston said:

I think you completely misunderstood my entire point. The point wasn't that the particular Glock they fondled didn't fit them well, it probably didn't. No big deal. It was that saying ALL GLOCKS don't fit them well when they come in multiple sizes and grip configurations with multiple backstraps.

Call me a fanboy and say I am a noob all you want. Been carrying for 30+ years and only one of my three carry guns is a Glock.

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For most I think what doesn't fit there hand has nothing to do with backstraps or finger grooves. It has to do with the grip angle, getting "Glock Knuckle", etc... I think evy pretty much knows they can change out back straps and different gens do not have finger finger grooves. People who's issues are with the aforementioned usually specify they don't like a certain Gen of Glocks because of the grip.

The Glock grip doesn't fit my hand well regardless of the generation. CZs, Kahrs, Walthers, and XDs fit me much better.