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I am nothing less than impressed with my latest gunbusters buy. Not often than I am so impressed that I would be inclined to do a post like this one. Thankfully I live in a gun friendly area, but not everyone does, and those folks may have concerns.

Let’s start with protection. The large parts (barrel,stock, trigger mechanism) are wrapped very well in a green bubble wrap and taped up very well to make sure they don’t escape the bubble wrap. The small parts (bolt handle, screws, washers, springs) are all in a ziplock bag, which is folded and wrapped in bubble wrap. The parts were not going to be damaged in transit short of being ran over.

Moving on from protection to packaging... the cardboard box is oversized but not hugely oversized. The void in the box is filled with large wads of brown paper. The bubble wrapped parts are not going to move inside of this setup. Again, nothing is happening in transit. With the box closed things get jacked up even a few notches higher. The majority of the box is covered with packing tape, and not just the brown paper tape or the cheap plastic tape, but the thick plastic variety with the plastic strips in it to reinforce it and prevent rips.

Labeling... this is of concern for folks in less friendly places. The shipping label from Gunbusters New England has a “from” identification of GBNE. Not identifiable as gun parts.

I am just as happy with the product I got as I am with the packaging. Pictures were clear and info was spot on. I have bought from the other gunbusters groups recently and have been less impressed with packaging, but this one stands out as being “the right way”.
 
Give UPS enough miles and they can destroy even that.
FWIW, I find time is the killer. The more time it takes to get somwhere, the more it seems to get handled etc. And that causes damage. So, I use the speediest methods I can afford, ramping up as the item cost increases.

For me, this is not a gut feeling but testing. I (partly) mail stuff for a living, and have done a lot more. Occasionally, make sure friendlies send you photos of how it turned up, or just mail them to yourself, etc.

I suspect from the specifics I see the GB guys have much the same. Either they test, or they have taken reports of shipping damage seriously and correct them instead of just grumbling about it. Good for them!
 
Who is gun busters. All I can find is a a company that destroys firearms??
https://www.gunbustersusa.com/home.html
There are a few different outfits under the Gunbusters name, each listed as separate sellers on Gunbroker. They get guns in for various reasons and destroy the serialized receiver and sell the rest as a parts kit for repair other guns that may be damaged.

Some models are such that the serialized receiver is a very simple part like a tube or a plate. Such was the case with this purchase, the gun is a single shot 22 similar but not the same as a gun I was given by my grandfather. I will make the receiver by drilling a block of aluminum, cutting 3 simple slots with an endmill and threading 2 holes to attach the reciever to the stock. I have seen other auctions where complete parts kits would be easy to build a functional gun as well.
 
Congrats on finding a seller on GB who has a conscience. I've made dozens if not hundreds of purchases from sellers there over the past 15+ years, but have less than 30 feedbacks and some of them not exactly positive. Seven items turned out to be stolen, more than a hundred items turned out to be far worse than described -- many not even functioning -- and countless out and out frauds. Shipping has been an issue with many, but I'm just happy when it makes it to my door in a conditions somewhat similar to the description. Thanks for posting!!
 
Congrats on finding a seller on GB who has a conscience.
That's not how I describe a company that destroys firearms.
"GunBusters" is despicable.



Seven items turned out to be stolen,
How do you know this?:scrutiny:
I'm a gun dealer and there is no method for ME to verify whether a particular firearm was reported stolen....so how did you find out?
I'll bet I've transferred 10,000+ guns from GunBroker..........not a single one was ever traced as a stolen gun. Thats why I'm puzzled as to how it happened to you SEVEN times.o_O



more than a hundred items turned out to be far worse than described -- many not even functioning -- and countless out and out frauds.
I'm guessing you should have stopped after your first bad experience.
Anyone who continues to buy "hundreds" of guns as you describe....seriously, there's something wrong here.o_O
 
"GunBusters" is despicable.
How so? Guns legally confiscated, “bought back” or otherwise acquired and headed for the chopsaw can either be chopped up, and be gone as many places do, or they can be stripped down first and sold as parts kits to support the other guns out there. Keeping guns working and letting people learn how to fix stuff is a win for me.
 
How so? Guns legally confiscated, “bought back” or otherwise acquired and headed for the chopsaw can either be chopped up, and be gone as many places do, or they can be stripped down first and sold as parts kits to support the other guns out there. Keeping guns working and letting people learn how to fix stuff is a win for me.
Firearms seized by the police can and should be sold at auction to the highest bidder.....as complete firearms.
GunBusters is the darling of the anti gun crowd who are doing their best to see all guns get the GunBuster treatment.
Their business plan depends on gun seizures/forfeitures/buybacks and other anti SecondAmendment "common sense" ideas.


But hey, you got some cheap parts.
 
Firearms seized by the police can and should be sold at auction to the highest bidder.....as complete firearms.
GunBusters is the darling of the anti gun crowd who are doing their best to see all guns get the GunBuster treatment.
Their business plan depends on gun seizures/forfeitures/buybacks and other anti SecondAmendment "common sense" ideas.
Yes, you are right.Any seized gun should be put up for sale intact. States shouldn't limit mag capacity or ban rifles because they have that thing that goes up.
So, a state that could just grind up a gun decides to destroy the receiver and sell the parts to a middle man and that middle man is scum?
We can agree to disagree.
The middle man sells these parts to us. We can buy parts that are obsolete or hard to find because they aren't made any more or the company that made them are long gone.
We can buy parts for 2nd and 3rd Gen S&W semis because some departments allow someone to buy everything except the receiver. But you are right. If a department will not sell the entire gun to the public, just let them grind up the entire gun. They may not sell the entire gun but they do allow several otherwise useless gun (no other parts) get fixed and put back into use. So this one gun could help 3 or 4 other guns get back in service. Kind of like human transplants. One person could save the life of several other people. Happens every day. However, these scum bags who sell the parts of destroyed receivers are scum of the earth. Makes sense. I see your point. I do. I just vehemently disagree with your viewpoint.
 
Speaking of stuff being chopped up... I wonder if a hacksaw blade would be hard enough to be used as a firing pin for a rimfire. The spring quality seems like a good thing as flex is definitely more desireable than bend or break.

edit: 5 minutes in the garage with a belt sander yields a very promising part. I made a couple bad grinding mistakes which will put weak points into the protrusion that actually hits the shell so I know I don’t have a final part, but I have a part that will work at least once.
 
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Firearms seized by the police can and should be sold at auction to the highest bidder.....as complete firearms.
GunBusters is the darling of the anti gun crowd who are doing their best to see all guns get the GunBuster treatment.
Their business plan depends on gun seizures/forfeitures/buybacks and other anti SecondAmendment "common sense" ideas.


But hey, you got some cheap parts.
Kentucky has a law that all seized firearms must be sold at auction. Unfortunately the auction is only open to FFL holders. The exception to that is Fish and Wildlife, who auctions guns confiscated from poachers, etc. A couple of times a year they auction off their surplus equipment and a whole bunch of hunting guns, ATVs, tree stands, boats, etc. The guns usually end up selling for as much as they did new. Auction fever.

If the law requires the guns be destroyed then it's an overall win that the parts make it back into circulation. I doubt a company that was ideologically bent on chopping up guns would make the decision to sell the parts.
 
Speaking of stuff being chopped up... I wonder if a hacksaw blade would be hard enough to be used as a firing pin for a rimfire. The spring quality seems like a good thing as flex is definitely more desireable than bend or break.

edit: 5 minutes in the garage with a belt sander yields a very promising part. I made a couple bad grinding mistakes which will put weak points into the protrusion that actually hits the shell so I know I don’t have a final part, but I have a part that will work at least once.

How well does that work? I may be working on a Page Lewis Target A model that might need a new firing pin.
 
...So, a state that could just grind up a gun decides to destroy the receiver and sell the parts to a middle man and that middle man is scum?
1. That's not what I wrote.
2. "the state" isn't destroying these firearm receivers.....GunBusters is a company in business to destroy firearms.
3. I find that despicable. Destroying a firearm simply because it is a firearm is exactly what the left and the antigun lobby wants.
4. I would hope true Second Amendment advocates would refuse to do business with such a company.





The middle man sells these parts to us. We can buy parts that are obsolete or hard to find because they aren't made any more or the company that made them are long gone.
We can buy parts for 2nd and 3rd Gen S&W semis because some departments allow someone to buy everything except the receiver. But you are right. If a department will not sell the entire gun to the public, just let them grind up the entire gun. They may not sell the entire gun but they do allow several otherwise useless gun (no other parts) get fixed and put back into use. So this one gun could help 3 or 4 other guns get back in service.
If your justification for destroying guns is it makes finding parts easier.....shame on you.


Kind of like human transplants. One person could save the life of several other people.
Except "kind of like" = not at all alike.
First, no one takes your organs unless you/your family gives permission.
Second, and most importantly, these guns AREN'T DEAD!!!!
I'm sure you would agree that "kind of like human transplants" means we don't kill perfectly normal humans to simply harvest their body parts?
 
Thats next to useless.
Info is user submitted and not the same as the FBI NCIC database of stolen firearms.
I'm not quite sure how you concluded that when it clearly says "This database contains Florida stolen property information as reported to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement by law enforcement agencies throughout the state and authorized for release to the public. "
This is a FLORIDA resource, there might be similar resources like it in other states.
But hey, you're welcome!
 
Read up on GunBusters, because that is exactly what they do.
They destroy guns for free and resell the parts.
The company I read about didn’t seem to be ideological. They just seemed like they found a niche to make a buck from those misguided places that mandate seized guns be destroyed. I still think if they were truly gun haters they wouldn’t want replacement parts circulated that could make broken guns workable again.
 
1. That's not what I wrote.
2. "the state" isn't destroying these firearm receivers.....GunBusters is a company in business to destroy firearms.
3. I find that despicable. Destroying a firearm simply because it is a firearm is exactly what the left and the antigun lobby wants.
4. I would hope true Second Amendment advocates would refuse to do business with such a company.

So if a state requires any seized firearm to be destroyed but doesn't actually do it, the state can wash their hands of it? Or the city government? Seriously? I think your disdain is misguided. You are blaming the middle man who is providing a service of selling replacement parts to us.
So, Gunbusters or Gunchoppers should decide to not do the chopping and the state just decides to grind them up instead, that is better? Seriously?

We can agree to disagree.
IF the GOVERNMENT decides these guns need to be destroyed, then if no one will do it out of respect for the 2A, they will grind them up or bury them.
Better yet, they can sell them to Bloomberg to destroy them on tv and make a splash on the news. That would be better, right?
 
I'm not quite sure how you concluded that when it clearly says "This database contains Florida stolen property information as reported to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement by law enforcement agencies throughout the state and authorized for release to the public. "
This is a FLORIDA resource, there might be similar resources like it in other states.
But hey, you're welcome!
Again, its useless.
Even a Florida resident running a serial # through that website will not get the same result as LE running a serial number through a NATIONAL database.
 
The company I read about didn’t seem to be ideological.....
Actually, I believe each of their locations holds an FFL. Maybe even some are gun dealers.
Whether or not they are ideologically antigun is irrelevant when one is actually destroying guns.
 
So if a state requires any seized firearm to be destroyed but doesn't actually do it, the state can wash their hands of it?
If state law requires destruction it doesn't make it moral.


I think your disdain is misguided. You are blaming the middle man who is providing a service of selling replacement parts to us.
I'm not blaming any "middle man".....I'm blaming the actual company, the company destroying firearms. It is an affront to the Second Amendment. It affirms the liberal belief that the gun itself is the problem, not criminals, not the mentally ill.
If you like buying parts from them, well enjoy your parts.


So, Gunbusters or Gunchoppers should decide to not do the chopping and the state just decides to grind them up instead, that is better? Seriously?
AGAIN...
As I stated above, confiscated guns should be sold intact at auction to the highest bidder.
Those companies are profiting off the destruction of guns.
Destroying guns simply because they are guns is by definition "anti gun".
Doing business with such companies gives states and cities an incentive to keep destroying their firearms.




IF the GOVERNMENT decides these guns need to be destroyed, then if no one will do it out of respect for the 2A, they will grind them up or bury them.
Better yet, they can sell them to Bloomberg to destroy them on tv and make a splash on the news. That would be better, right?
Plenty of state and city governments DO NOT destroy their confiscated guns. They sell them AND surplus firearms at public auction.
Of course, they could ship them to GunBusters who will destroy them. That would be better, right?

Supporting companies like GunBusters means you support the destruction of guns.
But hey, you got YOUR parts and that's whats important.

What happens when it's your gun being destroyed?
 
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