296 powder for 44 mag

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Thanks for the help. I don't have any h110. I see hodgdon has44mag listed, but only in pistol. I have a 2018 version of their powder booklet. I'll just try the pistol recipe and go from there.

You have H110 if you have 296. They are the SAME powder! Hodgdon owns Winchester powders and theyare made in the same plant and just packaged differently. Loads may differ slightly from OLDER manuals but newer books show the same loads.
 
Amazing! 76 something posts and all the OP wanted to do was load some 44Mag with W296/H110 for a carbine Another Mountain out of a Molehill..
A current manual or a visit to Hodgdons online and it would be all solved.:scrutiny:
 
But you have to get the Secret Super Stuff from anonymous posts on the internet.

Hodgdon owns Winchester powders and theyare made in the same plant and just packaged differently.

Not really. Hodgdon has the distributorship. General Dynamics owns the powder mill.
General Dynamics also owns the plant in Canada that makes IMR powders even though Hodgdon fills the cans.
 
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Suggest using a magnum primer for all w296/h110 powder loads. I prefer the cci 350 primer.

happy thanksgiving,

murf

This was something I was told by a very experienced reloader. Reckoned you needed to get H110 "properly lit"
 
I have nearly always seem Magnum primers called for H110/W296 when used it 357 Mag but rarely see it called for with the same powder in 44 Mag. I have never had an issue using standard large pistol primers in 44 Mag maybe the large primer makes the difference since 357 Mag is a small pistol primer. I use even larger quantities of H110 in 450 Bushmaster and use standard small rifle primer.
brian pearce penned an article in handloader magazine a while back wherein he tested h110 in cold (below zero) weather. I do not recall, and I am not home to re-read the article, if the cartridge was 357, or44, but performance fell quite a bit in the cold. that, and the excellent accuracy, is why I use magnum primers in all my h110 loads (44 Magnum and 45 long colt).

murf
 
But you have to get the Secret Super Stuff from anonymous posts on the internet.



Not really. Hodgdon has the distributorship. General Dynamics owns the powder mill.
General Dynamics also owns the plant in Canada that makes IMR powders even though Hodgdon fills the cans.

But but where is it actually made? Canada or St Marks in Florida?? These are pressing issues! What happens in Shawnee KS?? :what:

https://wwpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/winchester-smokeless-ball-powders_072811.pdf
 
But but where is it actually made? Canada or St Marks in Florida?? These are pressing issues! What happens in Shawnee KS?? :what:

“What happens in Shawnee, KS” is corporate and operations management and marketing of a distributorship.

Hodgdon does not own “Winchester.” Olin owns Winchester, with distribution licensing for Winchester branded powder exclusive to Hodgdon, ammunition production and distribution house managed, and firearms production licensed to Herstal and Browning.

Hodgdon powders are produced by ADI and General Dynamics, and Hodgdon’s only operations are repackaging bulk powders for consumer sale, and distribution of said. At most, Hodgdon could only contract product specifications from one of these manufacturers, as they aren’t operating a powder manufacturing facility.
 
But Hodgdon owns Goex and therefore is a black powder manufacturer.

I have not seen anything to say where the fakes, Pyrodex and 777 actually come from.
 
“What happens in Shawnee, KS” is corporate and operations management and marketing of a distributorship.

Hodgdon does not own “Winchester.” Olin owns Winchester, with distribution licensing for Winchester branded powder exclusive to Hodgdon, ammunition production and distribution house managed, and firearms production licensed to Herstal and Browning.

Hodgdon powders are produced by ADI and General Dynamics, and Hodgdon’s only operations are repackaging bulk powders for consumer sale, and distribution of said. At most, Hodgdon could only contract product specifications from one of these manufacturers, as they aren’t operating a powder manufacturing facility.

I never said anything about Hodgdon "owning anything" Let alone Winchester and Olin. I am well aware of GD and Saint Marks and don't live to far from them So don't post about things I never said.
 
Pull your panties out. There was confusion up thread, so I expanded upon the question you asked, then moved on with my life.
 
brian pearce penned an article in handloader magazine a while back wherein he tested h110 in cold (below zero) weather. I do not recall, and I am not home to re-read the article, if the cartridge was 357, or44, but performance fell quite a bit in the cold. that, and the excellent accuracy, is why I use magnum primers in all my h110 loads (44 Magnum and 45 long colt).

murf

I quit using H110 in 44 Mag. Too much muzzle blast and flash from the revolver. I got the same velocity from the revolver with allot less 800-X and allot less blast and no muzzle flash. The 800-X does not produce the velocity in the carbine that H110 does but it's still plenty for TN whitetail. I save the H110 for 450 Bushmaster and 410 shoot shells.

I have noticed velocity loss in cold weather with H110 and 450 Bushmaster. I lost nearly 100 fps going from 95 deg to 40 deg.
 
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