Jeb Stuart
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Lol, Keltec should be suing Ruger.Maybe Keltec should go after Sig while they are at it. Funny the PF11 was discontinued about the same time the 365 was launched.
Just because they're suing doesn't mean they think they can win.
Which they ripped off from the M1 CarbineThe Ruger 10/22 has a pretty darn generic/functionally minimalist look
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Ruger.... Get over yourself! This is the kind of thing I'd have expected from that weenie Bill Ruger himself.
Todd.
Lo and behold, the big names in the industry lobbied legislators to re-instate IPR to appearance, even when designs are several decades old and the designer has passed away long time ago. This enabled them to start legal action against manufacturers of products that were far closer to original design, hand made, of extremely high quality and even cheaper than their "original" ones, that only had an artificial license going for them.
First, American Outdoors and Strum Ruger are about the same size corporate entity, worth about 500 to 750 million each.Patents provide Government enforced monopolies, and they have been horribly abused to the determent of the consumer. Rent seeking is pervasive and universal and I think it is about time to get rid of patents. As can be seen in this example, the larger Company will simply sue the smaller into bankruptcy, and strengthen its monopoly.
Same with the AMT Lightning pistol, the clone of the Ruger Mark series pistols.Ruger has done this before, to AMT in the 1980s over trademark rights, not patents. AMT stopped making their 10/22 copy (the 25/22) as a result. So it makes perfect sense that they would continue that tradition today. It would be a surprise only to those ignorant of the history.
Patents and other IPR have their place and time, but extended anywhere beyond reason, they become a form of socialism. Corporatism. The end results is the same, at some point they start hindering all technological development instead of just granting a business opportunity to the inventor. In this regard Coca Cola and WD40 have played it smart, never patenting their formulas but keeping them as business secrets, which is how we operate with some, select technologies. We're small enough to be steamrolled by any major corporation, ie. not large enough to patent everything and rely on litigation, so keeping them guessing is the way to go.To fail to see that patents actually create new wealth, means you see intellectual property the same way socialist see monetary property
Indeed, they got their start making a .22 LR Glisenti.I'm not sure on what grounds. Ruger's patent has long ago expired. And Ruger has made a few blatant copies of other guns in the past.
Does this mean that Kel-Tec will be suing Ruger over the LCP?
is it being Shanghied if they charge more and make it better? It’s not like TC made a junk copy and charged $99. Its $399.
FWIW, I wouldn’t buy a 10/22 for $99. So there’s my obvious bias.
Everyone makes a better version of the 10/22 than Ruger does, maybe that’s the real problem.
All entry-level semi-auto .22 rifles are basic blow-back actions with aluminum receivers and minimal hardening of parts, because the round doesn't require it. All of them use plastic everywhere they can. NONE of them are made much better out of the box than the Mossberg Plinkster, which retails for about $110. The only thing the Ruger has that is worth paying extra for is a wooden stock and flush magazine.
Anyone who pays $399 for the T/C gun is a fool.