Back stop for hand gun shooting in a barn

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Hey gang.... I've been toying with an idea for some time and thought I'd float it hear and see if anyone else has tried this.

I have a clear 30' space in my barn and during the cold winters up here in Mainiac land I've pondered setting up a backstop to shoot "indoors".

My thoughts are to make a 8" deep (front to back) "box" out of two sheets 3/4 plywood, then fill it with sand. I'd add a 1/4" plate of steel on the outside surface of the back side as an "insurance policy" that no projectiles could get through, and then I'd put several layers of a rubbery membrane (like Bitchethane) on the inside surface of the front side, to help prevent the sand from spilling out of the perforated surface. Replaceable spoil boards could be made for the front side as well. Then make a removable plate for the top side to check the sand level and add additional sand if needed.

I'd put this contraption against the end wall of the barn (with a wood pile and another shed, and then woods on the back side) and shoot from the other end of the barn some 30' away, limiting my use to normal hand gun loads (no magnum stuff) and .22 LR.

Note that we live in the woods with the closest neigbor some 700 ft. away through the woods and no houses behind the side where the bullet trap would be.

My inspiration comes from a co-worker who grew up shooting .22 LR in his basement with his brothers using a home made bullet trap. He says it was a popular thing to back in the day, and the bullet trap plans were published in a magazine.

Any constructive input is much appreciated.... especially from any who have made private use indoor ranges.
 
i have always used a front end loader, dump a few loads.... 6-7ft high sand or dirt. I like sand as i can shoot my hunting arrows into one side of the pile and get real practice useing the same type of arrow i hunt with (broad heads) dulls them up but then take the new ones hunting.... the other side of the pile is used for what ever u want to fire into it (highpower) but i always fire into the bottom of pile.

It is really great to have your own private range..... Good luck
 
30' space in my barn ... closest neigbor some 700 ft. away
You will want good ventilation to reduce inhaling lead dust or your blood lead level will go up, especially if you are planning to shoot with doors/windows closed to reduce noise (And lead dust that falls to the floor will continue to accumulate unless you have a way to remove it properly) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ealth-information.307170/page-10#post-9616073

You will even want separate range clothes as without adequate ventilation, lead dust will accumulate on them. Lacking adequate ventilation, I would consider using a respirator to prevent inhaling lead dust:

- 3M 2091 filter is for lead particle and do not offer protection from vapor - http://www.natlallergy.com/images/art/3M-2091-P100-Filter-Overview.pdf

- 3M 2097 filter is for lead particle and vapor but offers limited protection from some vapor - http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=SSSSSuH8gc7nZxtUnx_e5vTSevUqe17zHvTSevTSeSSSSSS--

"... this report document serious lead exposure from indoor firing ranges ... The findings in this report also suggest that firing range customers and family members of firing range employees, in addition to employees themselves, can be exposed to hazardous amounts of lead.

... Airborne and surface lead levels in firing ranges can be greatly reduced by using lead-free bullets, improving ventilation systems, using wet mopping or HEPA vacuuming instead of dry sweeping, and having a written protocol for range maintenance."
 
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Switching to an air pistol would alleviate the noise and lead problems, make a backstop simpler, and give you better training due to the greater increase in group spread (due to lower muzzle velocity).
 
There was a commercial bullet trap that was just a stout box with replaceable front panel.
It was recommended to fill it with small gravel, not sand.
 
People have been using used tire mulch for years with good results which minimizes lead splatter (Many indoor ranges use used tire mulch as bullet trap).

This bullet trap found pistol caliber bullets at 7" to 8" depth (9mm to .357 Magnum)

 
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Thanks for the replies.... I'll look into the shredded rubber, and using a dust mask is a good idea.

Re. ventilation.... the barn is more than a bit drafty and I can open a door at the firing line end. I also don't anticipate that the "range" will get used much, as I only live ~3 miles down the road from the pvt. range I use. But in the winter months, it would be really nice to go test fire some of my hand loads without making a trek. :cool:

Re. lead.... I've been reloading for over a decade now and I understand that lead is a real issue... so I'm always happy for a reminder. But since I don't eat Fritos or suck my thumb while I reload and I shoot almost exclusively at outdoor ranges, I don't expect any problems. I did have the blood test for lead checked a few years back and it measured less than the detectable amount (<1 µg/dL) . :thumbup:

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P.S. though I used to cast and have a stash of loaded cast Pb boolits, I have pretty much given up on it. I hate cleaning it out of my barrels and plated bullets are cheap enough for the limited volume of rounds I'm able to put down range.
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Your design sounds good. I would add:
-Baffles off to the sides to catch splash
-Inspection space between the back of your trap and the outside wall.
-A way to empty it for mining and repair (pull the bottom board?

Also keep in mind that the lateral pressure at the bottom of an 8' pile of sand is considerable. You'll want through-bolts near the bottom.
 
Also keep in mind that the lateral pressure at the bottom of an 8' pile of sand is considerable. You'll want through-bolts near the bottom.

Good point... I think I'd be OK if I made the target 4'x4' and mounted it on to a pair of 2x10s spanning between two of the barn posts (pole barn construction).

If I can't hit a 4'x4' target 100% of the time at 30 ft, I should probably just hang up shooting altogether. :eek:
 
Thanks for the replies.... I'll look into the shredded rubber, and using a dust mask is a good idea.

Re. ventilation.... the barn is more than a bit drafty and I can open a door at the firing line end. I also don't anticipate that the "range" will get used much, as I only live ~3 miles down the road from the pvt. range I use. But in the winter months, it would be really nice to go test fire some of my hand loads without making a trek. :cool:

Re. lead.... I've been reloading for over a decade now and I understand that lead is a real issue... so I'm always happy for a reminder. But since I don't eat Fritos or suck my thumb while I reload and I shoot almost exclusively at outdoor ranges, I don't expect any problems. I did have the blood test for lead checked a few years back and it measured less than the detectable amount (<1 µg/dL) . :thumbup:

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P.S. though I used to cast and have a stash of loaded cast Pb boolits, I have pretty much given up on it. I hate cleaning it out of my barrels and plated bullets are cheap enough for the limited volume of rounds I'm able to put down range.
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I’m willing to bet your lead levels rise if you go ahead with your plans as-described. Your reloading/casting history hopefully did not involve indoor explosions relatively close to your face...

“Drafty” is likely not up to snuff, and respirators are much more than a dust mask, and have to be properly fitted to actually work. Adequate ventilation requires an exhaust system (properly engineered) to pull all air away from the shooting station and down range.

That said, at least if you have a good backstop and trigger discipline you’ll only be risking harm to yourself and whoever owns the barn after you.

Good luck.
 
I’m willing to bet your lead levels rise if you go ahead with your plans as-described...
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“Drafty” is likely not up to snuff...
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Good luck.

I appreciate the feedback and will give it strong consideration.

I think the key factor for me is balancing what I really want to do with this set up... and all the input is forcing me to more carefully define this in my head.

To call it "a range" doesn't really match up with my intent, as I'm really looking for a place where I can set up a chronograph and pop off a few test rounds every once in a while without making a trek. Add to that popping off a few mags in the winter months once every couple of weeks for proficiency (and of course, for kicks and giggles).

Zoning, local ordinances and safe shooting practices all allow me to walk out into my side yard and shoot into a plywood target stand. But this has "concerned" one of my neighbors to call the police in the past. Of course they came, ogled my firearm lustfully, and then told me what I already knew.... that what I was doing was both safe and legal. But this is not a social gathering I care to indulge with any frequency. So my thoughts are that shooting in the barn will dampen most of the noise and placate the nosy neighbors. (heck, with the gun club just three miles down the road, you can hear gunshots most any day once the trees drop their leaves).

So with that in mind.... perhaps sound dampening material would be a good idea. Fortunately, I know a little about that already.
 
I'm really looking for a place where I can set up a chronograph and pop off a few test rounds every once in a while without making a trek

sound dampening material would be a good idea.
How about this to reduce gun blast noise? (Jump to 3:00 minute for pistol shooting comparison)

And wearing $12 3M respirator with proper filters would prevent inhaling lead dust to keep you healthy.

 
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How about this to reduce gun blast noise? (Jump to 3:00 minute for pistol shooting comparison)

And wearing $12 3M respirator with proper filters would prevent inhaling lead dust to keep you healthy.

I found this article linked into an old THR thread. Similar idea, but on steroids. A couple peeps posted that they had done similar set ups with mixed reviews.... but most were trying to dampen the sound from high power rifles. Unfortunately that thread got side tracked and shut down after the safety police started squabbling about how it is never safe to shoot on your own property.
 
Do you have a bucket on a small enough tractor to put a berm in the barn on that back wall?

RR ties and sand to form a berm tall enough to ensure you won't overshoot could be scooped out when the weather got warm and the ties stacked. Just reconfigure ties and load in a new berm of sand.
 
I use steel myself but generally still shoot from indoors to a target outside, when it’s cold.
 
Your plans are over-all appropriate, safe, and beats the hell out of football during cold winter days. Have fun and be sure to buy more guns and ammo!
 
I built a 25 ft range in the basement of our old (ex) house. It was 4x4 old telephone pole cross arms stacked up, with 6x6 stacked in front of those.
A piece of 3/4 plywood in front to tape a target onto.
Behind the target area was a wall that enclosed a coal bin, and fieldstone foundation at the outside edge. The bin had a window to the outside so I hung a piece of 1/8 inch steel to block anything that could make it to the window.
Nothing ever made it to the coal bin wall.
I never shot magnums only 38 , 22 9mmMakarov, and 380
 
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