Thanks for the warning, but I'm about to take a Berthier Mle. 16 lightened carbine to the range tomorrow... .My least favorite is any carbine in 8mm lebel.
It'll beat the snot outta me.
Same as you on the M95, because it kicked like a mule! Shot 10 rounds at the range, and had a bruise on my shoulder. Neat looking gun, but I hated the straight pull action.Re-arsenaled M95 Styer rifle- wacky action, wacky ammo, wacky clip. Bought it for $89 at a pawn shop in the '00 - '01 timeframe. Auctioned near $500 a few months ago on GB.
Same as you on the M95, because it kicked like a mule! Shot 10 rounds at the range, and had a bruise on my shoulder. Neat looking gun, but I hated the straight pull action.
Thanks for the warning, but I'm about to take a Berthier Mle. 16 lightened carbine to the range tomorrow... .
Hopefully my shoulder will survive.
Like you, that particular m95 straight pull I do not like. I did find that cleaning the bolt thoroughly as in detailed disassembly soak, scrub etc. helped along with Slip 2000 that I used to lubricate it. Still, you have to work the action like you hate it. I'd imagine that you were right at the proper hate level in ten rounds. Unfortunately, the older 8x50r Austrian is orphaned ammo which is much gentler on the shoulder. Not too many unaltered 8x50r rifles left either.
The Ross rifles and the Schmidt Rubin series and K31 are much smoother straight pulls to me.
You know, the m95 is probably one of the last really great deals on milsurps if you don't fire them. JG Sales was blowing them out for about $100 or so less than ten years ago and now they are bringing $300-400 each even in relatively cruddy condition. Personally, I would like to get one of the unaltered long rifles so I could let this one go--I got it because it was cheap and I was interested in the design.You’re certainly correct about the bolt being hard to cycle; it never felt like it went fully into battery(even though it did). I kept thinking about the bolt slamming into my face.
My 20 year old nephew bought a M95 at a gun show a couple months ago, along with some Austrian surplus ammo. I warned him about the recoil, but he shot 30 rounds the next day. He called me and told me that I was right!
Guidelines for the thread, to be sure.
I mean, hell's bells - if someone does not agree with me that my Carcano is not MY least favorite for the reasons that I state... That's OK, they have the right to be wrong about me.
Too, look at all of the misguided fools who think a Mosin is the cat's pajamas!
For my part, the greatest pleasure I am getting out of this thread is the input from fellas who like something that I specifically dislike - either through my own experience or by reputation.
I am particularly fascinated by displeasure with certain Mausers. I thought once you bought one you were taught the secret hand-shake, given a gallon of the koolaide and sworn to silence as to any potential displeasure.
Todd.
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That's got to be one of the prettiest cartouches I've ever seen. Amazing to get that detail across the grain of a rifle stock.
And, to have survived for so long so clearly. Regardless being semi-double-struck.
Todd.
Oh no. you are firing a fully manual m16 Berthier assault rifle? Is it registered?
I think if you have have the five round clip version, the five round clips might be regarded as assault hi caps in some unfree states.
In all seriousness, good luck with your shooting, the Lebel round is pretty stout as issued. I have a Berthier m16 that was similarly sportered by shortening the stock and have the rest of the forestock to graft on whenever I have the time and relieved medical issues to do it. But as is, the recoil is brisk from my recollection of firing it a couple of years ago. Personally, I admit to using a kick eez shoulder pad when firing those old milsurps off the bench. The recoil on milsurps in field firing positions never bothered me as much but presently don't want to risk it due to medical issues. Stuck firing low recoil firearms right now.
I had a Turkish Mauser in 8MM. It was a worn-out piece of junk and heavy. I had a chance to make a few bucks so I dumped it.
I had a Spanish Mauser that was converted to .308 and it was a worn-out piece of junk and sold it.
I bought a Mosin Nagant for $60. It had a really dark black bore, the bolt locked up all the time and it shot 18" groups at 100 yards so I dumped it.
I picked up a 7mm Argentine Mauser that thumped like a mule. I had too many Mausers in various calibers so I decided to sell that one
I had an Albanian SKS that was pretty rough and carved up with trench art, Some guy around here collects trench art so he made a nice offer and it home with him
Hmm... what's that just fitting a stock on? I could be down.Well, if you don't mind a project, Gunbroker has a bunch of T53 barreled actions with bolts, and some even have the bayonets on them, for $180.
I believe so. There are lots of pictures of what they have.Hmm... what's that just fitting a stock on? I could be down.
Mosin Nagant M91/30.
The stock is completely saturated through and through with grease and the bolt sticks so hard you just about need a mallet to work it. And then the stock greases up your hands, which then makes the bolt twice as hard to cycle (shoulda brought the mallet) and all of your other guns half as much fun to shoot.
Garbage bag or blowdryer tricks are dumb. I've got some ideas for degreasers to try, but it looks like 2020 is going to be a busy year and I'm not sure I like the rifle enough to mess with it.
Mosin Nagant M91/30.
The stock is completely saturated through and through with grease and the bolt sticks so hard you just about need a mallet to work it. And then the stock greases up your hands, which then makes the bolt twice as hard to cycle (shoulda brought the mallet) and all of your other guns half as much fun to shoot.
Garbage bag or blowdryer tricks are dumb. I've got some ideas for degreasers to try, but it looks like 2020 is going to be a busy year and I'm not sure I like the rifle enough to mess with it.
This one just appears to need just the stock and handguard.Hmm... what's that just fitting a stock on? I could be down.
My Type 38 Arisaka, an absolute dog. Oh, it's not the original maker's fault, it's the fault of bubba. Bubba completely refinished the gun, without sporterizing it (except for bending the bolt handle), so it looks like a brand-new issued rifle, until you get up close. The worst thing bubba did, though, was rechamber it to .257 Roberts. He did this because the ammo was easier to find in the US than 6.5 Japanese. Nothing wrong with that, except for 1. It will not feed from the magazine, rendering the rifle a single shot, and 2. It is now extremely inaccurate. I mean, it's like a joke rifle that you give to your friends in order to embarrass them. I describe the accuracy as "Minute of County" (if you fire the rifle, and the round hits somewhere in the same county, that's as good as it gets). That's how bad it is. I never shoot it and use it as a display gun only, and as a reminder of foolish choices I've made....
There is a fellow up in Idaho who specializes in Arisaka parts. He has hundreds of barrels, bolts, etc. I suspect he could supply you with an original barrel that would screw right in and cure all those ills
I have shot a number of Arisaka's and I like them. Pop brought one back from WW-II and my niece has it now. It is a last ditch, and in getting it running, I studied it quite closely. It was made fast as in welded safety and lathe marks on the barrel (no time spent polishing stuff), but is no less strong than the others. Do not stand down range and expect one to come apart and save you - it won't.
I even know about, and have handled, a Carcano-Arisaka. It's an odd beast. Intrigued by the gain rifling. Maybe someday I'll get to shoot it ...