Possible New Colt Pythons?

Obturation said:

...i think the 22 rimfire version should be called "the worm", not the garter snake . just my .02.

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Hopefully the 22lr version will be called the Anaconda, just to make the internet an even more interesting place.

tbob38 said:

How far down the list are you?

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Second

The hypothetical .22 should be on the New Cobra frame and called the New Diamondback. A .22 Python would weigh a ton unless made of ersatz materials.

I have a 6" Trooper MK III in .22 lr. It maybe heavy for a .22, but it is a nice shooting gun.

Can't we just name it "Pygmy Python" and move on, please? Not to push you or anything, but we are on page 10 and haven't yet covered the .327 Federal...

A friend has a .22 OMM and it is a heavy gun without rib or lug.

For years on THR and other places I heard and read people say "Colt will never bring back the Python they don't have the capability" and here we are reality being we are waiting for our local gun stores to receive the first batch and there are already waiting lists for the chance to get it.

We can now argue if it is still a real Python like of yesteryear or not, but the Python is back. This gives you choices of A~ buy a new one, or B~ watch prices drop on many used ones and buy that. Either way good news for many of us unless you sell vintage old ones for a living.

You know what comes next right? The Anaconda.

I don't believe the new gun will cause the old ones to drop in price. New buyers are likely shooters. Old buyers are likely collectors...Old Pythons have fallen in price compared to a few years ago, though.

lionking said:

For years on THR and other places I heard and read people say "Colt will never bring back the Python they don't have the capability" and here we are reality being we are waiting for our local gun stores to receive the first batch and there are already waiting lists for the chance to get it.

We can now argue if it is still a real Python like of yesteryear or not, but the Python is back. This gives you choices of A~ buy a new one, or B~ watch prices drop on many used ones and buy that. Either way good news for many of us unless you sell vintage old ones for a living.

You know what comes next right? The Anaconda.

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I’m tempted to buy 44 mag dies now.

ColtPythonElite said:

I don't believe the new gun will cause the old ones to drop in price. New buyers are likely shooters. Old buyers are likely collectors...Old Pythons have fallen in price compared to a few years ago, though.

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Oh I think it will on shooter grade classic Pythons, those that are 98% and maybe never fired yeah those will still be sought by collectors at premium prices because they probably collect don't shoot.

We'll see....I haven't noticed the new Cobra and King Cobra affect the price on the old guns much.

ColtPythonElite said:

We'll see....I haven't noticed the new Cobra and King Cobra affect the price on the old guns much.

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The last year I have watched several auctions for King Cobra end bidding below $1400.00 when previous to that they were selling $2000 and up in many cases, I also have seen a increase of older ones being put up for sale in the last year. Whether this is because the new one came out and it affected the older ones which I think yes, or there was just a shift in the prices in general, could be true but last I checked on gun broker a couple days ago all of a sudden there are pages upon pages of Python up for sale and most are asking $3000 and up and I personally believe those that were holding on to them for investment are having a "oh .." moment trying to sell before the new one comes out.

But like I said for collectors the old one will be their choice, depending on the grade that won't change.

New "King Cobra" is not a reasonable approximation of original.
New Python is.

I had contemplated selling my Pythons before the rumors.
But they are well used "shooters" (but not worn out as the Internet lore would have it) and I don't know how well their resale value is holding up. Even as much as new retail?

I believe old shooters with original grips will be 1200 to 1500 buck guns after the new one comes out.

I’m gonna pitch my tent in the “ the new Python wouldn’t effect the prices of the old one “ camp. There’s ton of people out there that won’t touch a new Smith with a lawyer hole on it for example. They will only buy vintage ones without it; it doesn’t matter if the new ones are 100% better or worse than the old ones. I see that train of thought a lot on forums. It’s a moot point if there’s truth in it or not. But at the end of the day, they are plenty of people who are willing to pay a premium on the old snake guns.

Snake Plisskin said:

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You went there ...

snake that was too funny lol

I don't place much confidence in anything that The Yankee Marshall says. Many of his videos are click bait in which he proceeds to take a stance in contradiction to other big name gun channels (Military Arms Channel, IV8888, etc) and use flawed/unsupported arguments or personal opinions to whine about this or that without providing any evidence to support his assertions. I agree with him and find him credible in rare instances, but the overwhelming majority of the time, he blows hot air. That said, I do hope that the Python makes a reappearance and is of good quality and a reasonable price point.

IMHO

If they turn out to be a quality piece, it will have some impact on the price of the used market especially shooter grade guns. There will still be some value in earlier guns but likely not as much as a pre-ban/post-ban gun in the semi market.
Likely more along the lines of a S&W pinned early dash/ vs late dash comparison.

(Once again, if this new generation is a quality piece.)

if junk, it shouldn’t change value much other than potential damage to the colt/python name

Maybe I missed a post somewhere in the previous ten pages, but I noticed they beefed up the top strap? What the heck? Is the implication that the “original” is/was somehow weaker?? Or marketing ploy?

Anchorite said:

Maybe I missed a post somewhere in the previous ten pages, but I noticed they beefed up the top strap? What the heck? Is the implication that the “original” is/was somehow weaker?? Or marketing ploy?

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That’s been on my “I wonder.....” list also. I never heard of it being under built or a failure point in the originals.

Anchorite said:

Maybe I missed a post somewhere in the previous ten pages, but I noticed they beefed up the top strap? What the heck? Is the implication that the “original” is/was somehow weaker?? Or marketing ploy?

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Not sure if the original is weak or not, but if you look at .357’s made for a steady diet of full powered ammo the top straps are pretty thick. For example the GP100, and Manurhin MR73 both have what you might consider to be overbuilt frames.

The original has a forged frame. It is far from weak.

Maybe they did it so it can fed 357 more often like Coal said. If I’m not mistaken, the originals tend to fail with a ton of magnums shot out of it.