VA Governor to Ban Guns at Rally

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You mean the VCDL Lobby support gathering, Monday, at 8:00 AM, at the Pocahontas Building , at 900 East Main Street, Richmond, Virginia, on 1/20/20 ? That gathering?


IMO, the real question is, how many of the governor's "constituents" are wife beaters, drug addicts, alcoholics, and mentally unstable people, who
couldn't truthfully file a 4473, and pass a call-in ? Do we want the leaders of people who can't even legally buy a gun running our lives?
 
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So a gun banning Politician is afraid so he bans guns before he officially bans guns?

his faith in the system’s ability to control the people needs to be tested, but at this point I don’t see a least painful way.
 
Casefull said:
Screw him and his so-called laws. He is the one who is illegal per our constitution. All people need to do Is ignore these laws en mass and that’s the end of the law. Wake up.
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Yeah that's easy to post, harder to be the guy to step up and get that started.

sota said:
I would be impressed if Virginians defied any such order.
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I would be too. But I fear this post may be accurate:
pert near said:
Some are saying that is exactly what the Democrats/socialists want to happen. Their resistance methods are to ultimately seed anarchy. The propaganda media would love it.
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At this point, I do not know what the correct reaction/response to this tyranny would be.

Based on what I am reading, however, it may not matter. People are pissed. off.

I read a guy's post the other day that suggested "going dark" and "doing what is necessary".

VA, we are praying for you guys. I hope there is no violence.

I hope the .gov in VA comes to their senses. I also don't expect them to. They have been doubling down on this insanity over and over.

in 5 days, we will know.

but we will really be watching when the laws take affect.
 
Corpral_Agarn said:
but we will really be watching when the laws take affect.
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I honestly don't think anything significant will pass. (And by "significant" I mean something like an AWB.) The sanctuary movement is having its intended effect, and the politicians (some of them, at least, representing a critical margin) are realizing how widespread the opposition is. Now, a lot of the Democrats are beholden to the soccer moms who elected them, and they have to at least make a token effort with background checks, a meaningless "red flag" scheme, and a one-handgun-a-month limit. But this is all window dressing. Gov. Northam is not going to get the bulk of his plan.

The one way this can all go south is if there is rioting and violence, so that gun owners can be painted as extremists. This is why bringing guns to Capitol Square is such a bad idea. All it would take would be a few hotheads to set things off. As for the idea that you need a gun for self-protection, this is the one place where you need to be prepared to take a risk.
 
AlexanderA said:
I honestly don't think anything significant will pass. (And by "significant" I mean something like an AWB.) The sanctuary movement is having its intended effect, and the politicians (some of them, at least, representing a critical margin) are realizing how widespread the opposition is. Now, a lot of the Democrats are beholden to the soccer moms who elected them, and they have to at least make a token effort with background checks, a meaningless "red flag" scheme, and a one-handgun-a-month limit. But this is all window dressing. Gov. Northam is not going to get the bulk of his plan.

The one way this can all go south is if there is rioting and violence, so that gun owners can be painted as extremists. This is why bringing guns to Capitol Square is such a bad idea. All it would take would be a few hotheads to set things off. As for the idea that you need a gun for self-protection, this is the one place where you need to be prepared to take a risk.
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Like I said, IDK what the correct response is.

I see your viewpoint, and you could be right.

But I also see the other view point... and they could be right.

I think that the dangers of a show of force are pretty apparent.

I also agree that all it takes is one goofball. But we have had goofballs come armed to other events involving the .gov and the .gov backed down.

I also think you are going to have a lot of people coming armed, whether we want them to or not. That cat appears to be out of the bag.

I do feel like the good folks in VA are getting pushed around by the .gov.
I also feel like gun owners may be playing into the .gov's plan.

but then, the arrogance of the .gov appears to have no limits, so maybe they do not expect the response that's coming, IDK.

Now, this is all just a guess until the 20th.
 
There will be only one entrance through a screening point to get into the square area. Anyone with guns or other weapons such as bats, chains and other items on a list at screening point will be turned away.
Governor said weaponized drones was one of the potential threats that has lead to this emergency declaration from Friday night until Tuesday.
 
I was not suggesting any form of violence in my earlier post. What I am suggesting is that as long as we refuse to disobey these laws as a form of civil disobedience, and in large numbers, we will continue to be pushed around by chicken little politicians. We are in the predicament we are because we did not raise hell when feds began making us get their approval to purchase a firearm.
With public opinion the way it is trending we are about 90% of the way to gun confiscation.
 
Can only wish that my health and finances were in better condition so that I could make the trip and attend. To be able to just increase the Physical show of strength for this issue. As said previously, Loud, Proud and Righteous! Strength in Numbers!
 
AlexanderA said:
I honestly don't think anything significant will pass. (And by "significant" I mean something like an AWB.) The sanctuary movement is having its intended effect, and the politicians (some of them, at least, representing a critical margin) are realizing how widespread the opposition is. Now, a lot of the Democrats are beholden to the soccer moms who elected them, and they have to at least make a token effort with background checks, a meaningless "red flag" scheme, and a one-handgun-a-month limit. But this is all window dressing. Gov. Northam is not going to get the bulk of his plan.
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You sure have an interesting standard for what “meaningless” and “window dressing” gun laws are.

With Universal Background Checks the 2nd Amendment is dead. What UBC’s does is require citizens to get the permission of the Government to own a gun.

It is obviously no big deal to you until the Government denies your UBC. Then what will you do?

You obviously fail to recognize the danger “Red Flag Laws” are despite the long discussions of it on THR.

As for “One handgun a month” purchases this is just another example of how much authority you are willing to surrender to the Government.
 
You know I have read through this thread and see both points about bringing guns or not. I'll leave it at this, public perception matters a lot toward those that are on the fence for gun control or not, what happens at this rally and how the media portrays it is going to have a huge impact.

I will tell you what the anti's say about us they say "gun nuts going through life scared and clinging to their guns fantasizing of a revolution and looking for a reason to shoot off the guns".

What happens at this rally or not will sway a lot of people and either give the media and the anti's massive propaganda or not
 
I don't really know about these things, so forgive me. But is it possible to go to court and sue for an injunction or something on the basis of "what emergency?"

I think it is pretty pathetic and ridiculous that sissy boy can just declare a state of emergency basically for no other reason than he soiled his panties.
 
lionking said:
You know I have read through this thread and see both points about bringing guns or not. I'll leave it at this, public perception matters a lot toward those that are on the fence for gun control or not, what happens at this rally and how the media portrays it is going to have a huge impact.

I will tell you what the anti's say about us they say "gun nuts going through life scared and clinging to their guns fantasizing of a revolution and looking for a reason to shoot off the guns".

What happens at this rally or not will sway a lot of people and either give the media and the anti's massive propaganda or not
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And if we're leaving it up to the media to have the final say than we never had a chance from the get go.

So we cant vote 'em out, have no say in the unconstitutional laws they ARE going to pass, the media is on their side and will paint this negative REGARDLESS of what happens and now we're supposed to show compliance by showing up unarmed.


There is a breaking point and this may very well be it. And the rest of the pro 2A country is watching.
 
Corpral_Agarn said:
Yeah that's easy to post, harder to be the guy to step up and get that started.
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Kinda what I was thinking, too. I keep reading posts, or hearing people say: "They can't arrest 20k people." or something similar.

They're not going to arrest 20k people; they're going to arrest you.
 
jeroger said:
weaponized drones was one of the potential threats that has lead to this emergency declaration from Friday night until Tuesday.
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Airpower. Expanding the envelope. Aim High.

On a more serious note, I find this claim to be a little far fetched. I don't think the average bad actor can easily arm a drone. And if he can, I think the president recently proved that security details will not be able to prevent such an attack.
 
brewer12345 said:
What are the police going to do if 20,000 armed people show up and refuse to comply? Asking for a friend...
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They're going to arrest your friend. And if he resists, they are going to kill him. They don't have to arrest everyone; they only have to arrest you. Everyone else will slink away. Do you really truly believe that 20k armed citizens are going to mow down 40-50 police officers?
 
D.B. Cooper said:
They're going to arrest your friend. And if he resists, they are going to kill him. They don't have to arrest everyone; they only have to arrest you. Everyone else will slink away. Do you really truly believe that 20k armed citizens are going to mow down 40-50 police officers?
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Ideally the question never comes up. But a couple hundred police officers are not going to be able to bull around 20,000 uncooperative people, armed or not.
 
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