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On the contrary, whether or not any 1st gen Dragoons were offered with a fluted cyl or not, if this Dragoon left the Colt factory with that cylinder . . . it will letter as such and is, in fact, a Colt Dragoon. This possibly may be one of the "more rare" of the Dragoon series than most of the 1st gens.
Of course, if the cylinder is an Uberti /ASM that was added, it's just what Jim says. Just a 2nd gen 3rd Dragoon with a lot of cool factor!!! (It is purdy !!!). I'm sure Fingers McGee can give an account.

Shortly after I converted my Dragoons with Kirsts, I called to see if I could order a full fluted cylinder. I could, but not for the extra $$$ they were asking. I decided 45 Dragoons have enough "cool factor" without full flutes !!

Mike
 
Mike,

I also believe it would be a rare revolver.

To my knowledge, neither Taylor's or VTI currently offer a full-fluted Dragoon cylinder.

This is a scan from a book on Dragoons by James Serven & Carl Metzger (1946), page 38:

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The photo appears to be similar to at least two other photos that appear in Charles W. Pate's "The Colt 1860 Army Revolver" (2018), page 63, with respect to Colt's attempts to lighten the Dragoon frame and barrel (with the Root "creeping" load lever) as prototypes for a New Model Army revolver before abandoning the idea and proceeding with the use of the 1851 Navy frame for the NMA.

Regards,

Jim
 
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expat_alaska said:
Mike,

I also believe it would be a rare revolver.

To my knowledge, neither Taylor's or VTI currently offer a full-fluted Dragoon cylinder.

This is a scan from a book on Dragoons by James Serven & Carl Metzger (1946), page 38:

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The photo appears to be similar to at least two other photos that appear in Charles W. Pate's "The Colt 1860 Army Revolver" (2018), page 63, with respect to Colt's attempts to lighten the Dragoon frame and barrel (with the Root "creeping" load lever) as prototypes for a New Model Army revolver before abandoning the idea and proceeding with the use of the 1851 Navy frame for the NMA.

Regards,

Jim
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Thanks Hoof! I figured there would be something Sam had tried a time or two . . .

I've always thought full flutes were the coolest !!!

Mike
 
Exactly. For collectors of the second and third generation Revolvers this certainly is unusual. I’m inclined to believe it shipped from the factory in that configuration, the finish certainly looks bona fide... but then, it’s a long way from here.
 
The fluted 3rd Model Dragoon's are a known variant of the Colt Signature Series revolvers. They are rare but not unheard of, Cherry's had 2 of them last year which sold for around $650ea if I recall. Here is another one that sold recently for the super low price of $341, in my opinion proving Christmas is not the best time to sell a gun but it's a good time to look for deals. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/847104120

As for the real 1st Gen Fluted Dragoon, I think I remember reading a refence to legit ones somewhere. They were 3rd Model's. Maybe it was Collector's Firearms?
 
Armi San Marco Colt 1860 Army .44 4-screw cut for shoulder stock (date code BC/1993) with an Uberti full-fluted cylinder and an ASM engraved round cylinder, Pietta Colt Type 3 shoulder stock (with fairly nice wood), Colt-type powder flask, Colt-type .44 caliber 2-cavity (ball and conical) bullet mould, Colt -type L-shaped nipple wrench, and a reproduction Eley's cap tin (pill box). The case is an English style fitted compartment type.

I have been wanting to assemble a set like this for quite a long time. I have had the revolver/spare cylinder for a while but the rest of it was recently acquired.

Regards,

Jim

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Jim

Wow that's definitely the cat's meow there! Always loved the look of a cased set but that shoulder stock goes way beyond the cherry, on top of the icing, on top of the cake!
 
expat_alaska said:
Armi San Marco Colt 1860 Army .44 4-screw cut for shoulder stock (date code BC/1993) with an Uberti full-fluted cylinder and an ASM engraved round cylinder, Pietta Colt Type 3 shoulder stock (with fairly nice wood), Colt-type powder flask, Colt-type .44 caliber 2-cavity (ball and conical) bullet mould, Colt -type L-shaped nipple wrench, and a reproduction Eley's cap tin (pill box). The case is an English style fitted compartment type.

I have been wanting to assemble a set like this for quite a long time. I have had the revolver/spare cylinder for a while but the rest of it was recently acquired.

Regards,

Jim

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Very nice Jim!
 
to janenro/s reply and pictures. in all due respect those two matching revolvers called the man with no name is false. i believe not on purpose but out of lack of knowledge. they are a very nice pair of 1871-1872 open top colts by either pietta or uberti. most likely uberti. i have open top uberti/s and also a man with no name revolver by uberti. so with this knowledge i saw the mistake with ease.
 
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One of the last two Kaido Ojaama 140 gr .36 VKV Universal Bullet molds in 2 cavity. There should be an image here. Having problems posting from my google album to another board.. Please yell at me if there's no pic?
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Yes. Nice mould! All I have is a Colt style 2-cavity ball/conical.

I have a Pietta 1851 Navy .36 CM/2014 "tail" like yours but swapped out the wood, trigger guard, barrel, and cylinder. It is my 1851 Navy Second Model Belt Dragoon ;)

Regards,

Jim

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