327 Fed Magnum/32 Long

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I would consider using a different primer if loading full power 327 loads also. Most load data call for magnum primer
absolutely. Only got 32 S&W Long brass in today, the 327 Federal Brass arrives tomorrow. I did see the differences in the data for primers as well. Thank you
 
patterns like a round of 9 ball Double 00 buck lol
from 21' with the LCR standing offhand
happy with the first 10 wadcutters...will probably load some more up with charge increases as recommended in the coming days before trying the 327 brass and loads.
and back off the crimp a bit.
Excuse the recycled B-2 target..was what was on hand
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I've found Magtech 32 wadcutter ammunition is very accurate in my S&W Model 30 and Model 31 J-frame 32 S&WL revolvers.

That said, one of my idiosyncrasies is I prefer to shoot ammunition with the appropriate case that the gun is chambered for. Fortunately, I have revolvers chambered for 32 Federal Mag, 32 H&R Mag, and 32 S&WL so I save each size case for each particular revolver.

Mostly, I load 98 grain wadcutters that I cast, an RCBS mold, loaded in the three different cartridges. Pleasant to shoot and accurate. For the few full power 327 Fed. mag rounds that I shoot, I'll use factory ammunition. I also have the 98 grain SWC RCBS bullet mould.

I also have a 32-20 WCF S&W K-frame revolver (1921 vintage or so) and a 32-20 WCF Winchester lever action (1890's vintage). They are a fun pair to shoot once in a while. Given the age of my firearms, I load them down a bit to limit excessive wear on the fine "old girls".
 
What @cfullgraf mentioned (appropriate case for the chamber) could be part of your accuracy issue along with a couple other factors. The jump caused by the shorter case (32 long) in the longer 327 chamber could cause a little big of degradation in accuracy. That along with the short barrel and sight radius to me would make it harder to shoot an accurate group vs a longer barreled gun.

However, I wouldn't look too hard at accuracy yet. The fact that you're on paper with the first ever load you've made for this cartridge at a respectable distance is a good thing. Keep experimenting with load data and you'll find a good combination.
 
not worried yet...it's only a snubbie LCR. But I have bids on a single seven and a GP100 on GB right now. Let's see if one of those come home.
yes, now that I have 200 new pieces of Starline 327 Federal brass, I will load those up and keep everything in the correct brass length. it didn't take much to figure out why people love the 32 caliber revolvers...
 
Out of town for work - update though
won a GB auction for a 4-5/8" Ruger Single Seven in 327 Federal so after that ships, I will have a more accurate gun to shoot/test the 32 MBC 98grain Target rounds.
and going to get a chance to borrow a Walther GSP in 32 to test with as well when I get back.
 
It is a shame that 32 S&WL is not more popular. It is accurate and reasonably economical to shoot when hand loaded these days. It could have been the centerfire version of 22LR rimfire.

Oh, well.
 
I'm hoping with S&W's Classic line, they might bring back the Model 16 but I doubt it probably would be chambered in 327 Federal Mag, not 32 S&WL.
 
They'll never do it, but I would buy a new SP-101, GP-100, or a K or L frame Smith in .32 Long in a New York minute.
I think of 32 SWL in a J-frame as ideal. I have a S&W 30-1, which fires my reloads very accurately, but frankly I am a recoil kind of guy, as long as it is below the level that requires a glove or recuperation. A 22 still serves well to see how accurate my fundamentals are. Now, if the 32 SWL was a target model with longer barrel, and I was shooting at some range, that could find its place.
 
The MBC 98 grain Wadcutters HiTek loaded flush in .32 S&W Long Brass over 2.2 grains of HP38 did a nice cloverleaf at 50 feet out of the Single Seven.
the 2.1 grains were a looser pattern than the 2.2. The Single Seven with the adjustable sights make it much easier than my LCR.
definitely count this one a keeper recipe

The LCR held it's own for a snubby though- I was in a 6"-7" pattern at 50' in comparison to the clover leaf that the Single Seven did (once the sights were adjusted)
 
@GoldieMI How do you like the single Seven?

I heard/read people talking about a classic accuracy load many times using hollow base wadcutters or dewc bullets. The dewc is what the MBC bullet you're using looks like (even though they call them bevel base wadcutter on the site).

When I got my first box of wadcutters to load (38 special) I was made a believer. I found these to be more accurate than other round nose or swc loads that I had already developed in a pretty good shooting Model 10. In my experience it's fairly easy to find a good load with this type bullet, sounds like you found it!
 
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I like the Single Seven except the grip. I got the all black special editon from Lipseys.
The grip feels too wide and makes it an awkward grip for me. I prefer the hogue grips on my LCR to be honest. The XS front sights are nice and clear for my eyes. I did not have the timing issue that others reported. My reloads and factory ammo went in and out without any issues.
The MBC is a DEWC...I had a few shots that I had to go check and make sure they were on paper...yes- they went through existing holes as the paper hole showed it hitting it almost perfectly. The DEWC sure do make a nice hole in paper targets for scoring.

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I like the Single Seven except the grip. I got the all black special editon from Lipseys.
The grip feels too wide and makes it an awkward grip for me. I prefer the hogue grips on my LCR to be honest. The XS front sights are nice and clear for my eyes. I did not have the timing issue that others reported. My reloads and factory ammo went in and out without any issues.
The MBC is a DEWC...I had a few shots that I had to go check and make sure they were on paper...yes- they went through existing holes as the paper hole showed it hitting it almost perfectly. The DEWC sure do make a nice hole in paper targets for scoring.

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Have you ever shot a single action, Colt style revolver before?
 
This is my first single action revolver. All the other revolvers were DAO or DA/SA
Okay, so on a single action you pretty much have to learn the grip that comes with the gun. The Single Six design used for the Single Seven is not a big gun with particularly "large" grip. Usually, the type of grip is limited to whatever preserves the traditional old west look of the gun.
 
I like the Single Seven except the grip. I got the all black special editon from Lipseys.
The grip feels too wide and makes it an awkward grip for me. I prefer the hogue grips on my LCR to be honest. The XS front sights are nice and clear for my eyes. I did not have the timing issue that others reported. My reloads and factory ammo went in and out without any issues.
The MBC is a DEWC...I had a few shots that I had to go check and make sure they were on paper...yes- they went through existing holes as the paper hole showed it hitting it almost perfectly. The DEWC sure do make a nice hole in paper targets for scoring.

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Look for gunfighter grips, I personally like the grips on the lipsey, my Blackhawk came with gunfighter grips and didn't love the recoil impulse, switching to the wider grips helped immensely, but if the lipsey grips are uncomfortable check out the gunfighters, textured would probably help you to adapt from the da that you're used to.
 
Look for gunfighter grips, I personally like the grips on the lipsey, my Blackhawk came with gunfighter grips and didn't love the recoil impulse, switching to the wider grips helped immensely, but if the lipsey grips are uncomfortable check out the gunfighters, textured would probably help you to adapt from the da that you're used to.
Can you refer me to an example of a "gunfighter grip" for a Single Six/Seven?
 
Can you refer me to an example of a "gunfighter grip" for a Single Six/Seven?
Sure thing, quick search pulled these up, not textured of course, but thinner....
https://www.eaglegrips.com/ruger-ne...me-kirinite-black-pearl-gunfighter-grips.html
Hogue has a variety of styles as well such as a soft rubber overmold which may not solve width but may increase comfort:
https://www.hogueinc.com/handgun-grips/ruger/single-action/new-blackhawk
And it would be tantamount to blasphemy if I didn't refer you to Altamont! Their slim panels are farther down the page:
https://www.altamontco.com/pistol-grips/ruger/blackhawk/
I believe I still have my factory synthetic textured gunfighters laying around somewhere collecting dust I'll see if I can't dig them up......they wouldn't be bad on a single 7(accept for aesthetics) but I needed a wider grips on my .41 to take the bite away lol.
 
Sure thing, quick search pulled these up, not textured of course, but thinner....
https://www.eaglegrips.com/ruger-ne...me-kirinite-black-pearl-gunfighter-grips.html
Hogue has a variety of styles as well such as a soft rubber overmold which may not solve width but may increase comfort:
https://www.hogueinc.com/handgun-grips/ruger/single-action/new-blackhawk
And it would be tantamount to blasphemy if I didn't refer you to Altamont! Their slim panels are farther down the page:
https://www.altamontco.com/pistol-grips/ruger/blackhawk/
I believe I still have my factory synthetic textured gunfighters laying around somewhere collecting dust I'll see if I can't dig them up......they wouldn't be bad on a single 7(accept for aesthetics) but I needed a wider grips on my .41 to take the bite away lol.
There are questions about what constitutes a "gunfighter grip". I see the thumb landing as characteristic in the pics but don't see where they are any bigger or smaller. I cannot tell about the thickness/relative palm swell. Part of the question is what grip fits the OP's Single Seven frame, which I believe is the same as a Super Blackhawk (XRP).
 
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There are questions about what constitutes a "gunfighter grip". I see the thumb landing as characteristic in the pics but don't see where they are any bigger or smaller. I cannot tell about the thickness/relative palm swell. Part of the question is what grip fits the OP's Single Seven frame, which I believe is the same as a Super Blackhawk (XRP).
My lipseys measure .335" at the top and .525" at the base, the gunfighters that came on my Blackhawk measure .165" and .4" respectively, yes the single 7 uses an xrp as opposed to the xr3-red, and I'll dig up direct references for them momentarily but the frame's peg is the only thing stopping a flush fit and could be filed down if needed.
https://www.eaglegrips.com/316-gunfighter-style-grips
The xrp conundrum has been covered before, still an xr3-red frame my Blackhawk grips fit my single seven in dimension.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/ruger-xrp-grip-frame.826202/
I say grind down the locator pin/peg as drilling the locator hole on gunfighter grips may wind up through and through.
 
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this was my first time out with the Single Seven...I will shoot a few more times before I do anything, just to see if it becomes more natural for me. Thank you everyone with the suggestions and links.
 
update - Single Seven shoots fine- I think I have it figured out grip wise finally. Definitely needed to get used to the grips.
Now for the next step- loading the MBC 98gr Target DEWC into 327 Starline brass- I have a lot of the 327 brass to reload. I know it will have to be reloaded on my single stage and I have the dies figured out.
Loaddata.com shows a powder charge of 2.5-3.0 with the HBWC but not a DEWC, but I can definitely start low and work up and be safe.
 
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