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WestKentucky said:

So your stance is to just give everybody a gun, and hope for the best. Sounds like you want it to be government provided and funded too so let’s see what we get for the lowest bid, how effective is it? How durable is it? How can it not be taken advantage of? Is there free ammo to train with? How do we keep granny from giving her ammo to the kids that go out robbing others? Sounds like we have some new standards to meet that way too.

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I realize you are making these comments to try to convince us that chaos will result without Big Daddy controlling gun ownership but you unintentionally have hit upon a great idea.

Why not give citizens guns? The Government spends billions of dollars every year giving a lot of things to citizens such as food stamps and health care.

Only you are making it too hard.

I propose allowing citizens to deduct the cost of buying a gun(s), ammunition and, since you are so concerned, training costs and licensing fees such as for Conceal Carry Permit on their Income Taxes each year. By allowing deductions on our Income Taxes each year every citizen will have the opportunity to buy a firearm(s) best suited for their individual needs. A elderly person might be best armed with a soft shooting .380 whereas a rancher would find a AR-15 the best choice for protecting his livestock by killing coyotes.

How about a law giving benefits to the head of household that buy own AR-15’s? For example since you mention free ammunition how about once a year have a event where a person turns in a empty magazine(s) and receives in exchange a loaded magazine in return.

Citizens armed with AR-15’s could lead to creating unorganized militias. By unorganized I mean free of any control by the Federal Government.

As Texas10mm said Constitutional Carry is working just fine in the states that have it. No training no permit required.

Insignificant bill said:

As Texas10mm said Constitutional Carry is working just fine in the states that have it. No training no permit required.

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Exactly because they want to, and can legally, own a gun will seek out some assistance somewhere along the way. It might not be some three day combat course, but then I find most of those a tad over the top for the average person living in an average town. (If you live in Detroit or Chicago, things might be different )
Since criminals do not obey laws, fees, etc, will have no impact on them.

Seems many are too young to remember when you could order a gun from the back of a magazine and have it mailed directly to your house - no big issues there; or when kids could take their allowance and go to the local hardware store and buy a gun.......

Thibaut said:

We are a nation embedded in gun ownership and privacy.

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We "were" a nation embedded in gun ownership and privacy. I believe the majority now have little to no interest in guns, just a vocal minority.

Privacy? You're kidding right? We can't even get the minimal privacy laws the EU enjoys. There is no privacy here, every social media and data gathering company has ensured that.

Speedo66 said:

We "were" a nation embedded in gun ownership and privacy. I believe the majority now have little to no interest in guns, just a vocal minority.

Privacy? You're kidding right? We can't even get the minimal privacy laws the EU enjoys. There is no privacy here, every social media and data gathering company has ensured that.

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With respect, we are still the same nation. With the same constitution. As for majority interest, I honestly have no idea. My CCW class was probably 90% twenty-somethings. Mostly male. My LGS/Range is packed more than not. It is one of several. I believe that a somewhat recent global centre survey speculated that our United States accounted for about 46% (393 million) of the worldwide total of civilian held firearms or 120.5 firearms for every 100 residents. As for privacy. No. I am not kidding. CCTV camera experiments started in the 1970's in Britain. Their government adopted them to service in the mid to late 1980's. 35 years ago. It is true that security cameras in the United States have evolved from curiosity to ubiquity but considering other countries, we are just entering the game. The very fact that a person adapts an internet profile and becomes a member of an online forum makes it clear that they have accepted the factors, techniques and technologies used to protect their data, communications and sometimes sensitive preferences. Choice.

BTW: Actually we have made great strides in concealed carry. Concealed carry laws in most states have been dramatically changed in the past 30-35 years. 40 years ago concealed carry was illegal in many states. In WV i was required "prove a need" for a concealed carry permit and submit a bond before the license was granted.

When I first started carrying 45 years ago, Virginia was a May Issue state and also required a proven need ... no bond, though, thank goodness.

The license at that time specified "weapon" and I can recall one of my LE buddies at 2nd Precinct suggesting that I keep a sawed-off under a blanket on the behind-the-seats battery deck of my '69 MGB. <chuckle> A different time.

Thibaut said:

I believe that a somewhat recent global centre survey speculated that our United States accounted for about 46% (393 million) of the worldwide total of civilian held firearms or 120.5 firearms for every 100 residents.

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Those 120 firearms are probably owned by 10-15 US residents, not a hundred.

Here in AZ I can carry without a license, but I'm getting one anyway, finally took the class last week. I will have reciprocity with 38 states. The instructor cautioned us that when you go to another state, even though it has reciprocity, their laws might be different, so make sure you understand them. He said there is a phone app called CCW which costs like $2.99, that has the laws of each state.

Speedo66 said:

Those 120 firearms are probably owned by 10-15 US residents, not a hundred.

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I don't know.

Speedo66 said:

Those 120 firearms are probably owned by 10-15 US residents, not a hundred.

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The rate of ownership of an item for a given group group of people is often expressed in xxx number of items per 100 people. That way of conveying the statistic is not meant to imply that that's the number of people that own the item, only that that's the number of that item compared to the number of people. So, for example, I've read that New Zealand has 20 sheep for every person. That isn't intended to imply that every person in New Zealand owns 20 sheep, it's just a way to compare and visualize the numbers.