Possible New Colt Pythons?

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The apologists will be along to blame the users here momentarily.

Seriously the lunacy of the gun community putting up with products that don't work is really amusing sometimes.
 
Colt says five have been returned so far out of 2,000 released, two for cosmetic reasons. What is that, .25% for a new model? Big deal. It hardly equates to ‘total’ junk.
 
I sure hope nothing Smith and Wesson or Ruger releases in the next couple of years has any teething problems.
 
Yeah, Hickok 45 is a "moron". The guy puts more downrange in a week, than you do in a year. He has over 1.2 BILLION views, and over 5 MILLION subscribers. And he averages 800,000 views per day. He has a net worth of over $3,000,000.00. The bulk of which was derived from his You Tube shooting channel. He has fired just about every type of rifle, pistol, revolver, and shotgun imaginable. And shoots them ALL well.

But he's a "moron" because Colt sent him a crappy revolver that doesn't run right. The whole Colt fanboy attitude around here is fast becoming a running joke.

I definitely am a Colt fan...historically....I have an Anaconda that is my "baby".

But I agree with you. Hickock is no joke and I've seen enough hold off on any new Python purchase I might have been entertaining.
 
The Python is not having, "teething problems". By the time this is over, it will be fitted with dentures.
I get the fact your upset with Colt Bill. Have you had a bad experience with them or just bashing them because you can? You really seem to have some anger built up. Do you just serf the Internet looking for problems with the company? Do you have a Python that's junk? Maybe your just trying to warn everyone not to buy a Python so the company will quit selling them. Maybe your sitting on several old ones and hope the new one fails. Either way I feel your hatred is misdirected.
 
Colt is lying.
Colt has admitted problems. How do you know how many have been returned? When did Colt make their statement?
Please don't entertain any ideas of buying one of their pieces of junk then you will never have to worry about ever returning a gun for warrenty or appearance/ functionality problems.
 
I get the fact your upset with Colt Bill. Have you had a bad experience with them or just bashing them because you can?

Colt is bashing themselves. No one is doing it to them. They made all of this happen, not their customers or critics.They produced a substandard revolver with a LOT of issues. Accompanied with very high price tag, that equates to over twice what either Ruger or S&W charges for a comparable revolver. Then shipped it out with minimal, if any inspection. Now they're paying the price for their shoddy workmanship and manufacturing. If they would have taken the time to make the damn thing right in the first place, none of this would be happening.
 
I sure hope nothing Smith and Wesson or Ruger releases in the next couple of years has any teething problems.

They’ve had lots of recalls and problem guns, but get a pass from the Colt haters here. I’ll take a revolver that doesn’t have an internal lock that has been known to malfunction and freeze the gun up, thank you.
 
Colt has admitted problems. How do you know how many have been returned? When did Colt make their statement?
Please don't entertain any ideas of buying one of their pieces of junk then you will never have to worry about ever returning a gun for warrenty or appearance/ functionality problems.

A fraction of 1% of problems wouldn’t worry me at all, especially from a company with good customer service, much better than my experience with Ruger customer service.
 
Colt is bashing themselves. No one is doing it to them. They made all of this happen, not their customers or critics.They produced a substandard revolver with a LOT of issues. Accompanied with very high price tag, that equates to over twice what either Ruger or S&W charges for a comparable revolver. Then shipped it out with minimal, if any inspection. Now they're paying the price for their shoddy workmanship and manufacturing. If they would have taken the time to make the damn thing right in the first place, none of this would be happening.

The shooters on waiting lists for the new Python wouldn’t say Ruger or S&W are it’s equal, and .25% problem guns isn’t ‘a lot’. Your wrong statements on this thread are a lot more than that figure.
 
Yeah, Hickok 45 is a "moron". The guy puts more downrange in a week, than you do in a year. He has over 1.2 BILLION views, and over 5 MILLION subscribers. And he averages 800,000 views per day. He has a net worth of over $3,000,000.00. The bulk of which was derived from his You Tube shooting channel. He has fired just about every type of rifle, pistol, revolver, and shotgun imaginable. And shoots them ALL well.

But he's a "moron" because Colt sent him a crappy revolver that doesn't run right. The whole Colt fanboy attitude around here is fast becoming a running joke.
Ok kids. First off, calm down. I didn't spit on your dog and I never said Hickok was a moron, did I? The guy who can't shoot without flinching, that's the type I was talking about and there are plenty of them. I mentioned his flinch on the video and he thanked me. Mmmkay. :confused:

Secondly, you have no friggin' idea how many rounds Hickok puts down range in a year. Nor do you know how many I put downrange in a year. Rest assured, every one of mine is bought and paid for, as are the guns they launch from. If this appeal to authority makes you feel better, think whatever you want but making silly generalizations like that will get your tail in a crack. You've already dug yourself quite the hole without making it personal. That said, Hickok45 is a personable fellow who shoots at reactive targets. He doesn't do any formal testing. So let us not pretend for one second that he's the second coming of Skeeter Skelton.

Last but not least, I have in NO WAY made excuses for Colt shipping a faulty product. If you had actually been around here for a while before you started frothing at the mouth, you'd know that I have always been very critical of Colt. But I have to give credit where it is due as the Colt SAA of today is the best it's ever been and their 1911's are also quite good. Simply put, I just think that people like yourself and spending way too much effort bashing Colt over this issue. Maybe if you spent more time shooting and less time bellyaching about Colt, watches and whatever else, you'd have a more harmonious outcome.


.... or maybe they should ship products that function properly.
Maybe so but sending them to people who don't know how to operate one correctly are not helping their case at all. Due to the success of people like Hickok45, everybody and their uncle is trying to do the same. Some are halfway decent, others not so much.
 
Ok kids. First off, calm down. I didn't spit on your dog and I never said Hickok was a moron, did I? The guy who can't shoot without flinching, that's the type I was talking about and there are plenty of them. I mentioned his flinch on the video and he thanked me. Mmmkay. :confused:

Secondly, you have no friggin' idea how many rounds Hickok puts down range in a year. Nor do you know how many I put downrange in a year. Rest assured, every one of mine is bought and paid for, as are the guns they launch from. If this appeal to authority makes you feel better, think whatever you want but making silly generalizations like that will get your tail in a crack. You've already dug yourself quite the hole without making it personal. That said, Hickok45 is a personable fellow who shoots at reactive targets. He doesn't do any formal testing. So let us not pretend for one second that he's the second coming of Skeeter Skelton.

Last but not least, I have in NO WAY made excuses for Colt shipping a faulty product. If you had actually been around here for a while before you started frothing at the mouth, you'd know that I have always been very critical of Colt. But I have to give credit where it is due as the Colt SAA of today is the best it's ever been and their 1911's are also quite good. Simply put, I just think that people like yourself and spending way too much effort bashing Colt over this issue. Maybe if you spent more time shooting and less time bellyaching about Colt, watches and whatever else, you'd have a more harmonious outcome.

Maybe so but sending them to people who don't know how to operate one correctly are not helping their case at all. Due to the success of people like Hickok45, everybody and their uncle is trying to do the same. Some are halfway decent, others not so much.

Maybe these manufacturers should be more choosy about which YouTube morons they ship test guns to???

Then you need to be more "choosy" when you start calling people, "You Tube morons". If you stop lumping everyone into the same derogatory category, who have all had issues with this POS, it won't take you 3 paragraphs to explain your way out of it.
 
I’ve been staying quiet, and frankly these things happen with new releases. I don’t know what pre-release regimen Colt performs, but I have done quite a bit of “jury” testing for Ruger (I was once sent 5,000 rounds and instructed to essentially run a gun as hard as I could) and they attempt to isolate any potential problems and sort them out prior to release. I have had problems with numerous manufacturers and have always given them the benefit of the doubt and a chance to rectify the situation before being compelled to spew vitriol on the internet.

Give Colt an opportunity to rectify. If Colt fails it’s not good for any of us.
 
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Then you need to be more "choosy" when you start calling people, "You Tube morons". If you stop lumping everyone into the same derogatory category, who have all had issues with this POS, it won't take you 3 paragraphs to explain your way out of it.
Pretty sure he's not the one who's been "lumping everyone into the same derogatory category" -- suggest you reread your own posts in this thread (and the one you got closed). Perhaps he didn't need explain his way out of anything; perhaps someone else needed to read more carefully.

And frankly, I share his view of these YouTube guys, who really do no practical testing, but simply shoot a lot of rounds at steel targets at not-so-very-far ranges. They are, in fact, entertainment for people who can't get out themselves and do their own shooting.

Colt is lying.
Ah, yeah, no. Still have not seen credible documentation regarding numbers of faulty/blemished revolvers other than what the Colt reps have put forth -- publicly, I might add, while still allowing everyone and their brother at SHOT to line up and shoot the actual guns.

There's serious Colt-bashing going on here, of such an extreme nature with so many emotionally-charged comments that one has to start to wonder about the motives of some …
 
Ah, yeah, no. Still have not seen credible documentation regarding numbers of faulty/blemished revolvers other than what the Colt reps have put forth......

Because you don't want to look at it when it's starring you right in the face. Stop with your never ending Colt fanboy babble, and read the letter I posted from Colt. They admitted to shipments of faulty guns to customers. SHIPMENTS, not 3 or 4 guns on You Tube. So again, as I said before, either that Colt rep is lying, or else whoever wrote that letter at Colt is. It's got to be one or the other.

And again, before you come back whining about the source of that letter, and trying to start some non existent conspiracy theory. Ask yourself why someone would put that out if it were not true? For what purpose? That was a very well detailed, thought out response to a large problem, outlining a lot of issues.

That rep in that 3 minute video is trying to protect Colt's reputation any way he can. Because this is everywhere. And every day more of these faulty guns are turning up. This isn't over by a long shot. Regardless of how much you try to downplay it. And Colt has no one to blame for it but themselves. They have produced at least a couple thousand of these guns thus far. And only NOW are implementing changes to prevent this in future production models. Remember, both Hickok 45 and the other You Tube shooters had 4 digit serial number guns.

You have a link to a guy at m4carbine.net, who refused to pay for one after he examined it at the dealer. Because it was such a shoddily built POS. Is he lying? And what difference does it make if it's cosmetic, or fail to function properly, or all of the above. Would you accept delivery of an expensive new car if it was scratched or dented? You would walk away from it faster than he did that crappy revolver. And don't try to tell me he is the only one. They, (Colt) weren't even looking at these guns before they boxed them up. A blind man could have seen this stuff.

And what difference does it make if Hickok 45, or anyone else for that matter, "doesn't perform practical testing". Do you? He got a gun from Colt to shoot. He shot it. It wouldn't have mattered if he shot it from a Ransom Rest, or into a dirt mound. He didn't get through a box of ammo before it started to screw up and stopped running. As did the other You Tube shooters. The gun failed for them in the field. Just the same as it would have failed in anyone else's hands.

I'm tired of trying to tell you this stuff over and over. By now it should be obvious to you. It's not, because you don't want to believe or accept it. My only suggestion is go out and buy one. With your fanboy attitude, you'll be happy regardless if it's dinged up, doesn't run, or both. And right about now Colt could use a whole bunch of customers like you.
 
Why do you seem to be taking this all so personally? And yes I do perform practical testing, but that is neither here nor there. But besides throwing our hands up and screaming the sky is falling, why not give Colt the opportunity to address these so-called issues? Or is that too much to ask for?
 
You know...I've always taken the stance that about the only way to be upset about something is to first care about it.

Even the guys spitting fire about this new Python seem to somewhat care about the thing. I feel most revolver fans do, Pythons are beautiful firearms, most of us either have one, or want one.

Personally...I will 100% buy one, in time, after the smoke has cleared. IF Colt fixes the issues, IF Colt keeps making them, IF I can get on at MSRP...I'll gladly buy one. I wasn't old enough back when they were out the first time and I don't want to drop the crazy $$ people want for a used one.

Colt is easy to hate...they make crap decisions and often hose us, their buying group, over in the process, I get it. With that said, new revolvers coming off the line and then having issues from the start is no new thing, S&W, Ruger, and others have had their fair share of screw-ups as well.
 
I have no dog in this fight or a hard opinion. But I will throw this out there from practical sales experience pertaining to what that Colt rep said at the SHOT Show.

First, I have worked many trade shows as a rep and I have attended many as a customer (even SHOT), so I believe I have some credibility.

The main purpose of the SHOT Show (SS) is to take orders, to sell products. It’s a show and tell and springboard and predictor of the year’s sales.

If that Colt rep had admitted to any screw ups it would have traveled like wildfire throughout the show. Within a few hours every person in that show would know about it including the janitorial staff. And we all know how a story gets embellished after it is passed around. By the end of the day it would be said that every Python would blow up within 100 rounds and 12 people and counting are in the hospital. Needless to say, SW, Ruger, Kimber, and Taurus would tell everyone that walks in their booths as well.

I’m not saying the Colt rep is lying, but SS is definitely not the place to let the cat out of the bag.
 
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