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What about the new ZPAP
Oh those are nice and I'd love one it's just the price of those turns me off, but one of these days I'd love a Vz.58
What's the best AK for the money right now?
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I know PSA got off to a rocky start with AKs but what I'm hearing now is pretty favorable
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My first AK was a wasr and despite other peoples issues mine was just fine, I just cant see paying 700+ for the same rifle I got for 500 years ago except now it dosen't even have the bayonet lug for some reason
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Zastava is most under the radar Best bang for the buck by Far
They're not band but I haven't seen them be imported for a couple years.
The n-paps are on used market regularly and are OK and easily Superior to a wasser 10.
The O-Paps come with grenade sights and beefed-up trunnions and have no shake or rattle at all and make a wasr10 look like a toy.
If you want to buy American buy an AR or Ford but not an AK
AK-74 ammo is not much more expensive at all than AK-47 there are just fewer options readily available but there's plenty of it around cheap if you know where to look.
The AK-74 gives you the best of both worlds between an AR and an AK all the reliability of an AK and the accuracy of an AR almost.
They're not band but I haven't seen them be imported for a couple years.
The n-paps are on used market regularly and are OK and easily Superior to a wasser 10.
The O-Paps come with grenade sights and beefed-up trunnions and have no shake or rattle at all and make a wasr10 look like a toy.
If you want to buy American buy an AR or Ford but not an AK
AK-74 ammo is not much more expensive at all than AK-47 there are just fewer options readily available but there's plenty of it around cheap if you know where to look.
The AK-74 gives you the best of both worlds between an AR and an AK all the reliability of an AK and the accuracy of an AR almost.
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I'm definitely not opposed to a 74, I've always kinda wanted one, and after seeing PSA's 74 at shotshow I'm waiting to see how it is
That's like wanting a Ferrari and getting a Camaro
If it aint from the Soviet Bloc or a Mac 10 it's just not an AK in many people's book.
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Count me among the WASR fans. Mine is about five years old, sights are straight, never a malfunction of any kind. I did replace the blond wood with Russian laminate.
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I ain't a hater I just want an affordable AK that isn't junk. Like it used to be. So hopefully PSA will deliver. WASRs used to be junk, now they are "combloc AK" and Century and potentially PSA is junk. Before WASR hate there were guys saying Polytechs and MAKs, a lot of the AK's floating around at the time, were junk. I've been eyeing the PSA AK-P. I like a compact SBR like AK but if it's an AK I should absolutely be able to count on it 100%. Other guys can be guinea pigs for now.
I never got the bayonet lug and cleaning rod obsession but I will say I have rifles I paid 700+/- for back when WASRs were 450-500 bucks that have probably doubled in value. Had I known how the game was gonna play out I probably would've sucked it up and went with AR's. It's too late to turn back now that's why I'm hoping in the next year I can make a decision on that PSA.
$20 per case more for cases of GT, which ain't bad if you are committed to it. But not readily available on every ammo shelf, if there is there is usually less of it. Fewer mags. Fewer guns to choose from. And if you want light fast bullet an AR is probably cheaper at this point but that wouldn't be any fun.
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mak 90 can be found
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Saw a Hungarian SA-85M AK for a buy it now price of $850 recently on GunBroker. I have 6000 rounds through mine and it's very well finished with nice wood. Change the thumbhole for regular stock and grip and voila! PSA is gaining traction and learning from gen 1&2 with their gen 3 and soon to be gen 4.
They threw the ban on the russian saigas, and no chinese imports, Bulgarian seem to be drying up....that leaves the wasrs the zastavas and the US builds seems like. US companies are not building to same spec as the old commie rifles. Might be getting close enough for us plinkers. I don't like paying someone to beta test their product. Used commie rifle excellent condition or new wasr. I just dont have enough first han experiencenwith the zastavas though I am sure they are great. some of those had a high comb on the stock which made seeing the irons difficult for me. Good luck.
AK Operators Union on youtube does a pretty good job of testing rifles. Does 5000 round endurance testing with cleaning and inspection at intervals. From what I can see, US made AK's are improving. I think the last PSA rifle he tested did pretty good. You can get one of them under $600 on their site which is cheaper than most other options.
I guess the Zastava rifles might be more expensive, but they will be importing and producing new guns. I have an N-PAP that has held up well. I am waiting to see how the new AK74 clones hold up.
IMO, former combloc new production is just as capable of cutting corners and producing crap rifles as anyone else. The cheap surplus rifles out of Soviet inventories are gone or unavailable. I wouldn't trust any new production rifle just based on where it was made.
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