Which 9mm Pistols Would You Like To See In 32 acp?

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Can't think of any 9mm.s that I would want to see in .32 ACP. Maybe some .380s like the Colt Government or the Colt Mustang would be nice.
 
I have a Walther/Manhurin PP made in 1957 in 32acp and I can't imagine a better 32 auto. Not a 9mm but a Bersa 380 in 32acp. It would be about the same size as the Walther but a little lighter in weight. And like the other poster said a Ruger MK or standard model in 32acp would be excellent.
 
TTv2 said:
No 9's that I would want in a .32 ACP, more like .22's and .380's and that would be a Ruger Mark IV and the LCP II in .32.

Ruger didn't bother to give me that .32 LCP when I asked because they looked to see if Federal made ammo in .32 ACP and saw that they didn't, so that meant .32 ACP ammo didn't exist anymore, but they know Federal makes .22 LR, so that means it's plentiful everywhere and made that instead.

Actually, maybe one 9mm pistol I'd like to see in .32 is the CZ Scorpion with a binary trigger.

I really want the Mark IV in .32 simply because I want a well made semi auto with a long barrel and good sights in a small caliber that I can reload for cheap, but also have good inherent accuracy.. Inevitably ammo panics will happen again, .22 will disappear, and when that happens, you're .22 rimfire may as well be a .32 rimfire or a .38 rimfire, I.E. a gun you can't get ammo for.

Ever since Lucky Gunner starting doing their mousegun series, they seem to have helped put .32 back in the spotlight for its reduced recoil, yet enhanced ballistics over .22's. Hopefully the gun industry will take notice and start making more .32's, be it .32 ACP or .32 HR Magnum. All we have to do is spam Federal Cartridge with letters demanding they make a .32 ACP ammo because until they do, the gun makers will be hesitant to make a .32 ACP pistol.
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Except that Federal does load .32 auto ammo. Keep digging that hole.

https://ammoseek.com/ammo/32acp/Federal
 
Leave 9x19 pistols alone, I'd be interested only in 9mm Short aka .380 ACP pistols made for the smaller cartridge.

So, whatever pocket pistol that was sized originally for .380 ACP would be really nice in .32 ACP for those that are recoil averse or just a fan of the cartridge.

You know, anything Ruger LCP sized, offer that in .32 ACP. My Taurus TCP 732 has shown me the "light".
 
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TTv2 said:
It's a cost that everyone has to eat if they want a lower recoiling caliber that's centerfire.
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That was my point. I enjoy my 81BB, but I have no use for a 9mm sized handgun in a more anemic caliber that costs more to shoot. Lots of options for full sized .22 rimfire pistols that mimic their centerfire bretheren if one is after minimal recoil. The reliability argument of rimfire vs. centerfire is moot when it's a range toy, and I really can't see anyone opting for a full size handgun in .32 ACP for defensive carry.

Maybe I'm way off base, but I suspect the market would oblige if there were any real demand for 1911s, Glock 17s and Beretta 92s in .32 auto.
 
I wish someone would make the Keltec P3AT in .32acp. *sigh* Maybe someday.... :D
 
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If you took a Walther PP or PPK size firearm and dropped a locked breech recoil type mechanism in it instead of straight blowback, that would dull a touch of the recoil, then if .32 ACP was offered in a real +P loading for that firearm, getting the velocity up to 1,200 ish, you'd have 250 foot pounds of nrg, comparable to standard .38 Special loads, but with enough mustard to expand reliably - thus, superior potential in a small CZ-70 sized or Walther PPK sized little handgun. and .32 ACP was invented by John Browning. Personally, I find .32 ACP way easier to shoot accurately and quickly, so - to me that makes it better than 9mm, which - I'd like to see a study of how well people actually shoot various calibers.
 
film495 said:
If you took a Walther PP or PPK size firearm and dropped a locked breech recoil type mechanism in it instead of straight blowback, that would dull a touch of the recoil, then if .32 ACP was offered in a real +P loading for that firearm, getting the velocity up to 1,200 ish, you'd have 250 foot pounds of nrg, comparable to standard .38 Special loads, but with enough mustard to expand reliably - thus, superior potential in a small CZ-70 sized or Walther PPK sized little handgun. and .32 ACP was invented by John Browning. Personally, I find .32 ACP way easier to shoot accurately and quickly, so - to me that makes it better than 9mm, which - I'd like to see a study of how well people actually shoot various calibers.
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That .32 going 1200-ish already exists, it's the .32 NAA and it's a .380 bottlenecked to .32. Yeah, it's not a straight wall case, but with once fired .380 brass you could form it easily.

If it had to be straight wall, the .32 French Longue is pretty much a rimless .32 ACP lengthened to 9mm and that was the French military's main pistol cartridge for WW2. Kind of a dead caliber today, but Starline started making brass for it just last year.

I would like to try the .32 in a non-blowback pistol to get a sense for how much less recoil it has compared to 9mm or .380 even. I think between .32 and .380 the .32 is just better in all pistols because the .380 suffers from being a very light bullet for the .355 caliber and it lacks penetration, not too mention has more recoil.
 
MachIVshooter said:
That was my point. I enjoy my 81BB, but I have no use for a 9mm sized handgun in a more anemic caliber that costs more to shoot. Lots of options for full sized .22 rimfire pistols that mimic their centerfire bretheren if one is after minimal recoil. The reliability argument of rimfire vs. centerfire is moot when it's a range toy, and I really can't see anyone opting for a full size handgun in .32 ACP for defensive carry.

Maybe I'm way off base, but I suspect the market would oblige if there were any real demand for 1911s, Glock 17s and Beretta 92s in .32 auto.
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Okay, I fully understand and I agree. If someone plops a Glock 26 in 9mm and .32 ACP in front of me, I'm not taking the .32 for various reasons, but if you give me the option of other, smaller pistols, yes, I'd like a .32 option. You may prefer the .22 LR to .32 ACP and I do too when it's cheap and available everywhere, but the times when it's not will come again and I would really like to get .32 ACP away from the current perception of it being a pocket/mousegun caliber when it's capable of more.

There is no interest in a full size .32 ACP pistol and I have no argument against that because, yeah, it'd be dumb when 9mm exists, but for a Ruger Mark IV... that's not exactly 5 inch 1911 territory.
 
Long time ago (1994) I had a Seecamp 32.
Within the last couple years I still had 380's.
I can dress as I choose now and I won't bet my life on less than 9mm, so I wouldn't buy any pistols chambered in 32 (or 380).
 
Cokeman said:
Is .32 ACP making a resurgence? It seams like there are lots of threads about it lately. It might have something to with the used Beretta .32 ACP pistols that have been selling on a few of the sites lately.
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It would be nice to think so. I've long been a fan of 32acp and actually have more 32acp pistols than 9mm Parabellum and 380 combined. But I haven't seen many new semi-automatics over the last couple decades that I'd even want regardless of what they chambered.
 
MachIVshooter said:
Maybe I'm way off base, but I suspect the market would oblige if there were any real demand for 1911s, Glock 17s and Beretta 92s in .32 auto.
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I suspect you are correct.

An easy experiment for the .32 ACP market would be to make the Browning .380 mini 1911 in .32 ACP, very little cost to do so. A barrel, a mag, maybe change springs. As a .32 ACP at the range fan I would buy one, not sure if enough people would though.

And right, wrong, or indifferent, I would not be concerned with .32 over .380 for carry. A Seecamp .32 ACP was my deep concealment gun (And a .22 Mag NAA) for decades. Some would say that's nuts of course, and they are welcome to that.

But these days I am going to carry my P-365 in 9MM, and if I can't do that, the PICO in .380.

But I would buy and shoot most any sized .32 ACP for the range.

I bet @MachIVshooter could make me a barrel in .32 ACP for my XDm or 1911, he's a genius with a lathe. :)
 
I can't really wrap my head around wanting a 9mm architectured pistol in .32 other than extreme, fun novelty.

.380 in .32 is one of my favorite alternatives as I have always found my .32s to be generally flatter shooting.

Also, .380s are already ready for straight blowback.

THEN, I enter the fun-data of my .38 Special 1911 and ACE .22 into the equation and now your little mental-boondoggle has me really thinking!o_O

I would LOVE to try out a target Hi-Power or original CZ-75 as a blow-back .32 target gun.

Damn you and your internet flights of fancy - how am I gonna get this notion outa my head now?!?:evil:

Todd.
 
What is the case capacity of .32 ACP? With modern technology, one would think a gun that could handle a little larger loads would be easy to design into a +P loading for this, but can the case even hold more powder? It is a pretty small case.

My little CZ-70, is just the most fun to shoot of anything I have. A little recoil, but not much - and if the firearms was a locked breech and a little hotter - I'd think it would feel about the same to shoot, but then you could be playing with higher velocities which changes the equation for practical use for carrying and such.

So, I guess I'm off the current 9mm comparison and really just want a modern .32 ACP designed for the cartridge with an improved +P designation, think it would be more than effective, and much more fun to shoot than anything else out there.

and it was originally designed by John Browning, so it is just better for that reason.
 
A local shop has the post war version of the Beretta M1935 with the long barrel and barrel mounted front sight... unfortunately they have it at a price I felt guilty looking at and handling the guns as I knew I would not buy it in advance.

I an reminded of the Ne Plus Ultra, think a Ruby with extended grip and double stack magazine a 22 rounds of .32 ACP capacity.

One of the plastic framed CZ 75 progeny with a 25 round mag might be fun and if I lived in Central America where caliber restrictions might be an issue useful.

Of course I would want a .32 ACP carbine to go with it (hee-hee)

-kBob
 
The market for .32 ACP pistols has almost always been for small concealable pistols. With things like the P365 and the Hellcat on the market there's really no reason to go with a .32 ACP for 95% of the shooters.
 
A locked breech, striker fired, polymer framed 32 auto with at least a 15 round magazine capacity, and a minimum 3.75" - 4.25" bbl would be my choice (Glock 17 is a nice start). Extra credit for standard rifling and an ejector / recoil spring assembly that would pile the brass in ONE general area instead of all over, black hole, etc. I don't want it for defense or any official duty. It's a fun gun and extremely cheap to cast for. I'd also settle for an NFA PCC via AR-15 with threaded barrel.
 
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