P365 XL disappointed

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So today I bought a brand new P365 XL. I took it apart cleaned it and shot it today. I only fired 50 rounds of PPU 115gr range ammo and it would fail to return to battery multiple times per magazine. I could take my thumb and press the slide forward and it was easily fully chamber and would fire. The pistol shot well accuracy wise, trigger was ok and it ejected every single time.

Do you guys have any idea what the return to battery issue is caused by? Is there a "break in" period. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
I had so many problems with mine that they replaced it. The new one seems to be good to go. They've had recoil spring issues, so depending on how far out of battery yours is that may be the problem. I'd call their customer service Monday morning. The times I sent mine in for repair, they turned it around in 2 weeks or less.
 
It's out of battery very little 1/8 inch or even less. My thought was to clean and lube again, leave the mags loaded for a few days and shoot a different brand of ammo. If the problem still exists then back to Sig it goes.

I bought this pistol as my new EDC so I need it to be able to shoot anything and to be dead nuts reliable. It's they way my Glock 27 had been since day one so I expect this Sig to be the same way.
 
One of my magazines was so stiff that the first 5 rounds out stopped the slide. Not failed to return to battery but acted like a slide stop. That was after it set loaded for two weeks. My guess is that the mag springs may need some cycles. Does it only do it when the magazine is near full? Try loading 5 rounds at a time and see if it still does it (This would point to stiff mag springs).

As others have stated make sure you are not getting such a high grip that you are rubbing the slide. This will slow it and cause those symptoms. Real Estate is very hard to come with on this pistol especially if you have large hands (It's a two finger pistol for me WITH the magazine extension).

Mine will stop fully returning to battery causing light strikes if I run it over 350-400 rounds with WWB (It's very dirty). It has no problem with 600 Rounds of S&B 124 NATO which is very clean and very warm.

Some people have gotten Sig to send them a recoil spring / guide instead of sending the pistol for service if yours is faulty. They require a 2500 round replacement anyway so a spare is nice to keep.
 
Hickok45 had his do it on video as well. Held out of battery about 1/8” or so a quick tap and it was fully engaged and shot. I’ve seen a few videos of this happening to others as well, but I don’t have personal experience with them.

Call Sig and make them fix it.
 
I had one gun (Glock) that screwed up regularly and wouldn’t return to battery. I had the manufacture fix it and it seems ok now. But I don’t trust it and I will not carry it.

I have 4 different guns (Glocks) with 1200+ rounds with zero failures. Those are the ones I carry.

I guess most manufacturers do it but it sure is annoying that guns are sold when they are tuned so bad they won’t run.
 
It's out of battery very little 1/8 inch or even less. My thought was to clean and lube again, leave the mags loaded for a few days and shoot a different brand of ammo. If the problem still exists then back to Sig it goes.

I bought this pistol as my new EDC so I need it to be able to shoot anything and to be dead nuts reliable. It's they way my Glock 27 had been since day one so I expect this Sig to be the same way.

It sounds like the problem mine was having. Without seeing it I obviously can't diagnose it, but as I mentioned per Sig's customer service they were having problems with the recoil springs, causing the guns to not go fully into battery. They never could fix mine so there were obviously other problems with it and ultimately replaced it.
 
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I'm 100% positive my thumb wasn't riding the slide. I see no reason why the pistol shouldn't run with 115gr FMJ. I've got some older Winchester 115 FMJ and I'm gonna get some Federal or Remington to try. If this pistol chokes on multiple types of ammo back to Sig it goes.
 
It could be a very stiff extractor. Check it and also check the opposite side that faces the extractor for a sharp edge.
To me the advice to try 124gr NATO FMJ-RN is a good one.
 
I see no reason why the pistol shouldn't run with 115gr FMJ.
I'm not saying it won't run with the lighter bullet...but it is introducing an unneeded variable. It is like folks who insist on racking the slide (of another brand) to chamber a round when the manual instructs them to use the slide lock to release the slide for the first 200 rounds...then complain the the gun won't function.

When trying to figure out issues with a new gun it is usually easier during break in if you are using the weight bullet that the gun was designed for
 
Sorry for your troubles. I bought a P365 last week and was fearing that I'd get a lemon, but it has been flawless. I know I waited a couple of years for the bugs to be worked out of the P365. Seems like maybe the P365XL needs some more time for Sig to sort it out as well.
 
When you get into the smaller sized semiautos, their operating windows are inherently smaller. It is a limitation which should be expected when making the selection...like recoil spring replacement at shorter intervals

I understand the recoil spring replacement and such, but I've shot and owned multiple short barreled compact semi autos and NONE of them have failed to reliably function with multiple brands and bullet weights of their respective chambering. A pistol that costs over $500 should function with any ammo it is fed. I simply won't settle for any lesser,especially with a gun I plan to EDC. It has to work no matter what.
 
I had one gun (Glock) that screwed up regularly and wouldn’t return to battery. I had the manufacture fix it and it seems ok now. But I don’t trust it and I will not carry it.

I have 4 different guns (Glocks) with 1200+ rounds with zero failures. Those are the ones I carry.

This, I really don't get it. Once all 5 pistols have 1200 rounds through them, they have equal proven reliability.

You are essentially saying, "If I ever send a Glock back to the factory for a refresh I hope they get a random assembly line worker to do it and have a random QC Officer look it over. I think they are better qualified than a factory Glock Armorer".
 
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This I really don't get it. Once all 5 pistols have 1200 rounds through them, they have equal proven reliability.

You are essentially saying, if I ever send a Glock back to the factory for a "refresh" I hope they get a random assembly line worker to do it and have a random QC Officer look it over. I think they are better qualified than a factory Glock Armorer.

No I’m saying the particular Glock I got was flawed to have the FTRTB problem it had. When they “fixed” it, and not replaced it, I’ll never trust it for carry. There’s a chance it’s now as good as any other Glock but I don’t need to trust it since I have others. It’s a long story that I didn’t want to get deep into but it has to do with the 30sf that the rear frame lugs were too low in the frame. After 500 rounds it allowed the slide to rub internal parts and not return to battery. Glock honed some of those internal parts. :confused: Everything surrounding this particular gun is nothing for Glock to be proud of. So I don’t trust it. If I got a new Sig like the one in the OP, I would really have to know they got the spring combinations right, and any other bugs out of it before I would trust it. (And I personally think it’s pathetic either of these guns were sold)

All of the above might be different if I was on a tight budget and couldn’t just go buy another gun. My situation now allows me to bypass lemons and problem children.
 
No I’m saying the particular Glock I got was flawed to have the FTRTB problem it had. When they “fixed” it, and not replaced it, I’ll never trust it for carry. There’s a chance it’s now as good as any other Glock but I don’t need to trust it since I have others. It’s a long story that I didn’t want to get deep into but it has to do with the 30sf that the rear frame lugs were too low in the frame. After 500 rounds it allowed the slide to rub internal parts and not return to battery. Glock honed some of those internal parts. :confused: Everything surrounding this particular gun is nothing for Glock to be proud of. So I don’t trust it. If I got a new Sig like the one in the OP, I would really have to know they got the spring combinations right, and any other bugs out of it before I would trust it. (And I personally think it’s pathetic either of these guns were sold)

All of the above might be different if I was on a tight budget and couldn’t just go buy another gun. My situation now allows me to bypass lemons and problem children.

Okay, I get it now. The Armorer was instructed to do a "hack job" rather than bring it within spec. I wouldn't carry it either.

Due to Glocks Rep I gave them to much credit. I'm not a Glock owner but it's sad to hear that another company is willing to do the expedient thing instead of the right thing.
 
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Okay, I get it now. The Armorer was instructed to do a "hack job" rather than bring it within spec. I wouldn't carry it either.

Due to Glocks Rep I gave them to much credit. I'm not a Glock owner but it's sad to hear that another company is willing to do the expedient thing instead of the right thing.

I am a Glock fan but this one was o POS. I also have one Ruger that was a dud but I have a couple others that are great. And I hear of several problems with the Sig 365s. Guess they all do it but it’s still disappointing when we get a dud.
 
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