Hog huntin Harry
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Which would penatrate through thick skinned game and break bone better, a 1 ounce 12 gauge foster slug at 1600 fps or a 405 grain 45-70 at 1300 fps ?
12 gauge vs trapdoor 45-70
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Daveboone
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I honestly don't have any experience with trapdoor, but plenty with the shotgun and .45-70. Of course you are very limited to very low pressure loads in the trapdoor, where with a 12 gauge I ask first...what length, and which projectile? Because of the variety of rounds available, given that information I would without hesitation go to the 12 gauge...not to mention likely being able to get a 2nd shot in quicker than manipulating the trap door.
troy fairweather
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I'd pick the 45-70
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Hog huntin Harry
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A Winchester hollow point 2 3/4
DocRock
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A 405 grs lead bullet at 1300 fps will.kill buffalo. And it has. Plenty of buffalo were killed with surplus US Army trapdoor rifles and ammunition. Far, far better than a 12 ga foster slug which have a reputation for poor penetration on larger game. The 45-70 load will also be accurate and effective well beyond the range of a smoothbore with slugs.
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Hog huntin Harry
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On a 400 pound black bear would I be at any real risk using a 2 3/4 hollow point slug ?
tactikel
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12 ga with slugs is highly regarded for bear in Alaska. IMHO you don't need a hollowpoint slug, you need penetration.
.45-70 with proper loads has cleanly taken every species of bear in North America.
.45-70 with proper loads has cleanly taken every species of bear in North America.
DocRock
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If you insist on using slugs, please do not use a foster slug. Brenekke or Rio hardcast brenekke slugs will penetrate far better.
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The biggest risk here is finding a 400lb black bear to shoot. That’s a bruiser.
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Hog huntin Harry
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What about say a 250 pound blackie ?
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Hog huntin Harry
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I hope this thread doesn't turn into one of those wretched "bear threads"
redneck2
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Never really thought about it until now, but I’ve shot dozens and dozens, maybe 75-100 deer in my life and don’t think I’ve ever recovered a slug or bullet for that matter.
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I promise you it won’t.
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