Brass Knuckles Legal In Texas?!

Status
Not open for further replies.
Interesting thread. It shows just how far we have come from proper thinking.

Proper thinking is that EVERYTHING should be legal unless there is a pressing need to restrict it. Along those lines, when a pressing need to restrict something disappears, the restrictions should also disappear.

Therefore, there should never need to be an explanation why something is legal because that's the ideal normal state. Explanations should only be required to justify making something illegal, or for continuing to restrict something.

We've fallen into the idea that there needs to be a reason for things to be legal but that's totally backwards.
 
I'm not understanding what point you're trying to make here. Everything you're saying about knuckles can be applied to any weapon used for SD.
 
because a criminal

They're called criminals because they don't obey laws so they don't care about laws anyway.

Wade, you appear to be repeating a bunch of myths and these have influenced your thinking on self defense.

Why carry a knife if you carry a gun? ... Because you need to cut things a whole lot more often than shoot things. A knife is a tool, but if it has to be used to defend yourself because you don't have or can't get to your gun (think retention) then a knife is great to have. Anyone who has made the commitment to carry a handgun needs to know how to retain control of that weapon when in contact with an attacker and that involves creating the space to deploy the gun...generally done with a knife. So, defensive/retention tool and practical day to day tool. To paraphrase Gen. Mattis..."Always carry a knife with you ... just in case there's cheescake."

Where does it end...a sword? ... Just because it isn't illegal to carry a sword doesn't mean someone can be possessed by an inanimate object to do evil. This is cart before the horse thinking since the person has intent, not an object. The same argument is made about guns somehow making people intent upon attacking others. We know that argument isnt valid and we should be able to see that a flashlight in the pocket or even something like the key ring knuckles don't mean our intent is anything other than self defense. BTW, TN got rid of all blade laws in 2015 and we haven't had a problem with swords (or switchblades or ...) as a result.

Making an item legal or illegal doesn't stop someone with criminal intent from carrying or using it. It only affects people who are trying to follow senseless laws and subjects those good folks to being criminalized without their knowledge.
 
Last edited:
As well as my EDC I prefer to carry a cane for non lethal self defense. It is made from hickory heartwood and was harvested in winter when the wood is full of sap. I practice with it as well and like many people that don't know you don't swing it like a bat, but if I did I'm sure bones would break before my cane would. The cane helps keep unwanted encounters at a distance and will hopefully keep the fool alive before I have to escalate my defense into more severe action.
 
You're going to have provide some real data on that instead of touting the myth that "a 5.56 will rip a man's arm clean off". Knucks do nothing more than concentrate force in a punch and provide some protection for the hand, nothing more. A punch to the face, stomach, or even arm will not "KEEEEL". A punch to the head, with or without protection, may or may not be fatal.
We've been sold a bunch of lies about what knucks, switchblades, "dum dums", AR will do.

I completely misread R-Wade's post thinking he was saying knuckles kill instead of they won't.

So let me adjust in response.

Knuckles may or may not kill depending upon how they're applied. A punch to the side of the head may cause a brain injury that they die from while a punch to the face/jaw would be unlikely to. Knuckles are just a way to improve upon a punch and sometimes you don't want to have to go to lethal force to escape a threatening situation. This gives a less lethal response to a threat vs. a gun much as pepper spray does. We can all agree that if you don't have to shoot someone to defend yourself you're better off than having to live with their death.

Saps, jacks, knuckles all have been associated with movie criminals, toughs, or cops. This simply isn't factually correct, but it creates the impression that only ner do wells would carry such a tool. When I was a kid there were friends of my father's that were store owners and bankers who knew how to throw a punch and carried them, as well as a pistol, in their pocket when doing business. It gave them options in how to protect themselves and their businesses. Having that range of responses doesn't trap you into only having a lethal response. The other thing making people uneasy with these sorts of tools is they require you to get within hand to hand range and most folks simply don't want that. They associate it with brawlers and thugs that do when in fact most of the time criminals on the street don't give you much warning and you may have to use your hands to make space and escape or draw. A good flashlight of the proper size serves much the same purpose as a set of knuckles so why not give yourself the better chance of making that space with knuckles?

Having defensive options improves your chances than degrades them to my mind.
 
I say, ban behaviors not possessions.

BTW, if you decide to get some brass knuckles then get some good ones.
When I was a teenager I picked up a cheap pair and tried them out on a heavy bag.
Turned out they were copper-plated zinc and the one on my right hand shattered.
Cut my hand up pretty bad... .
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top