Two year expiration on new primers.. true or false?

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And primer manufacturers would have to pay to use that patent ... I think we have enough things to worry about.

How about let's not worry about primer expiration issue until we know for sure that it's an issue. ;)

Until then, it is another "internet myth"
Well I wouldn't call a Patent a myth. Heres the first 3 objectives.

SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION

It is an object of the present invention to provide a method for effectively controlling the shelf-life of ammunition.

A further object of the invention is to provide cartridge primers with a limited functional shelf-life.

A further object of this invention is to limit the functional life of ammunition by controlling the shelf-life of the primer.
 
So Chinese will make primers that last 2 years? :)

Maybe for the US civilian shooters! Probably not for the US police or military. I thought my points were, Lawrence Livermore is a federally funded National Lab, and that this patent proves the Federal Government is advancing the anti gun agenda through research. And I am just upset by the number of Chinese spies working at the National Labs, and academia in general.

The liberal agenda to get the American male out of the family, out of college, out of engineering and science, and turn them into "hewers of wood and drawers of water," well the liberal agenda is working. Government agencies have had to hire foreign nationals with advanced degrees in engineering and science, because the vast majority of individuals getting advanced degrees from US Universities are foreign nationals. I believe China and India are the two most represented Nationalities in Government employment with STEM degrees. Few of them are actually Government employees because Government salaries are non competitive. Instead these guys work for Contractors. It would be interesting to see the statistics on the most represented groups in Government without STEM degrees.

A comment on the non competitiveness of Government salaries. Last week I talked to an individual who had retired from NASA after 30 years. He retired in Dec. He picked up a job with a private contractor, on Army stuff, and he makes 25% more than he did as a Government employee, working three days a week! He is so happy working part time, three days on, four days off, a lot less stress than at NASA, and his current combined salary, and pension, he is rolling in money. He made agreements, no travel! If you ever had to travel for a job, it gets to be hell on earth. Your life is only about work, and regular transit by commercial airlines is a horrible experience that frequently becomes nightmarish. Pull 20 weeks or more of temporary travel duty in a year and you will figure it out. Maybe you will figure it out the first night you sleep in uncomfortable airport chairs because your connection left without you. (the chair backs are short, designed to keep you from staying upright, and arm rests prevent you from laying out on several chairs, it is all quite well thought out in terms of getting you out of an uncomfortable chair , getting you moving, and making space for the next person) Or, become a long haul trucker and have a stroke within the first year, like a guy in the neighborhood.
 
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That information is currently false with todays technology. But there have been attempts to produce such primers. It could be possible at some point in the future.
 
All I’ll say is buy 1/2 your 10-20 year inventory of components prior to next election and everything you can find left on shelves prior to the following election.
Note! 10-20 years will take care of my situation anyway! I’ll go bad, but the components will still be good!!!!!
Jmho
 
You know a shelf life on primers would not appear to be a good idea on the billions of loaded ammo the USA has in storage seems like the inventory would have to be sold off fairly regularly
 
Up until recently, every time I would visit the sporting goods section of the local box store or my favorite gun shop, I'd pick up a brick of primers or a brick of 22s. Not quite as often I would get an extra pound of my most used powder. During the "panics" I had plenty of rimfire ammo and more than enough reloading supplies. If everything is going smoothly, and supplies are available "just in time" inventories are OK, but with the political anti-gun climates in this country often "just in time is too late".

I worked for a Motion Picture and Theater lighting company that subscribed to a "just in time" inventory system and often there were some late nights waiting for parts that weren't quite just in time for a large ($$$$) order...
 
If you read the patent posted, it was applied for in 1995 and expired today 2-24-2020. Not exactly sure what the expiration means, IANAL.
 
So from an unknown Mr. Know it all he tells us that either now or soon to come primers will have an experation of 2 years.

It’s a clever statement because you can’t disprove it for 730 days or longer. “Soon” is a qualitative word that means different things to different people. Some would say they need to eat soon because they are hungry, others might say soon global warming will be the end of the earth. In any case, including “soon” one is speculating on something that doesn’t even exist.

I have primers that are over 30 years old and still work, that I can prove today.

Also, if a manufacturer did come out with primers that had such a limited shelf life, they would not be a brand I would purchase.
 
:( I’m amazed that someone would have primers more than two years old. Beyond inheriting a bunch I couldn’t acquire enough. I subscribe to the “ just in time inventory” method of reloading components. Buy a few thousand load load a few thousand, shoot a few thousand.

Works great until a panic comes around and you can’t get any components. Some of the stuff I have is stock others have had or just part of a lot I have bought in the past for a specific firearm and load, that takes many years to consume but still works it’s magic just as well as they did back when I worked them up.

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Those 25 year old Winchester’s are new compared to the Cartuchos Deportivos de México made primers as they changed their name to Tecnos in 1978 (Aguila) the CCI’s are also older.
 
Well I do have a few thousand at any one time, in loaded Ammo. Rather stock pile it that way.

That works too, I did the same when I started. I have many different calibers (new ones being added regularly), projectiles, powders and primers, they are more handy available to develop loads for than already loaded up.

I generally do a few thousand in a run, sometimes as many as 10,000 often smaller batches though. I still have a few thousand rounds loaded of a load that was perfect for the division I was using them in, then they changed the rules. Now I would rather the loaded ammunition still be in component form as I could load them to the new PF vs just plinking with them because I’m not about to pull thousands of rounds.
 
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