Should I be upset?

Is this a Florida company, if so no one that I can find sells a better product cheaper. I got my 8,000 rounds last weekend and would not hesitate at the $87.00 per 1,000 rate today.
The stores are empty, still a good deal, economic realities change quick when supply contracts.

I don't like gouging, but I also understand having to charge more when availability is almost zero to keep the income level for your company close to the same. My best buddy owns a LGS and they normally charge $10 a box for 9mm with brass case. He normally sells around 40-50 boxes a week. Small potatoes compared to some, but now when he can get some it is costing him $10-12 a box. He got quoted $18 a box from one distributor today and might have to buy some of that just to have ammo. Its going crazy. I know a 21% increase sounds like a lot, but their cost may be up that much or more. I'd buy what I could get.

GEM said:

Free market economy or would rather the government impose limits. Suggest to the President that along with your check, you get 1000 bullets or rounds of your favorite bang bang.

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Maybe I'll ask the President if he'll throw a bump stock in.

GravelRider said:

4000 bulk 9 mm bullets for reloading last month ... I paid $280 for 4000 bullets.

Now they only offer up to 1000 bullets at a time, and they're $85 (which would be $340 per 4000, a 21% price increase). Should I be pissed about this? Or is this just business in these crazy times?

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Simple supply and demand ... some vendors increase price during shortages ... some vendors price gouge (Like CTD) and I never buy from price gougers.

If you are willing to wait a bit, RMR manufactures their own jacketed bullets used by ELEY for their match ammunition - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...or-their-new-line-of-match-ammunition.854750/

4000 9mm 115 gr FMJ comes to $285 + free shipping with 5% THR discount - https://www.rmrbullets.com/shop/bul...rmr-full-metal-jacket-round-nose-bullets-new/

BTW, RMR has not increased or price gouged during previous component shortages - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ponents-on-sale.707473/page-178#post-11161685

Honestly?

This is the beauty of supply and demand at work through capitalism. A run on their product is evidently taking place, so they've adjusted accordingly to get through this. This means their product is still available, though at a higher price per unit, as opposed to simply running out in short order and not being able to supply any more customers.

Customers are faced with a choice...they can still buy from them as they still have the product, but at a higher cost OR they can shop around and see what's available elsewhere OR they can simply say "nah, not today...I really don't need this THAT badly".

Personally, I'd probably be mildly irritated...but knowing the product is still available means I COULD buy if I really felt the need or desire to do so.

Another way of looking at this, instead of a 21% markup, is a 100% savings for simply saying "nope, not right now" and pocketing your $280.

Something else to consider, is that many places are having to implement PPE for their employees, and others are having to pay tons of OT for their staff to keep up with the increased demand. Either of these will lead to increased overhead. A company's options are a) pass the increased cost to the customers, b) eat the cost (not good for the business), or lose production (equally not good).

Ramone said:

Would you be more upset if they were out of stock because someone bought out their their inventory?

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There it is in a nutshell.

Well I guess you can choose to be angry if you want, but it's only going to waste energy.

LiveLife said:

BTW, RMR has not increased or price gouged during previous component shortages

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I know there's other good companies out there, but RMR has really earned my loyalty. I buy 90% of my bullets from them, and I think they are really a stand up outfit.

Virginia Jim said:

I would be upset at myself for not seeing it coming.

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This X10. We were in a great period of low cost ammo. It wasn't going to last forever.

IMO, a 20% increase is not gouging. They were probably selling at a discount previously as just about everyone was selling ammo at a discount. If they remove the discount, that is not gouging.
I don't think anyone should be upset at this too much. In addition, that vendor now probably has to pay more to his supplier to get the bullets and ammo since everyone is ordering more.

I also think higher ammo prices should encourage people who are sitting behind their ammo forts to sell off some excess ammo.

The old saying is "buy it cheap, stack it deep" so you don't have to pay stupid prices for it during a time like this. The price from this outfit may not be too bad, but some vendors are jacking up prices and some people are foolish enough to pay it.

The local big car dealership is laying off 55 people. The mom and pop fish restaurant tells me they have a 75% drop in income. I feel for them as they can't now afford price gouging bullets. Guess, I'm not feeling this issue.

I feel for me as my retirement portfolion is clobbered for quite a bit. But wait, luckily - I saw this might be happening and went by Cabela's and bought several hundred rounds of 9mm at $10.88 per 50 and a box of 500 22 LR. Bought some 223 and 12 gauge slugs at normal prices last week. Actually - I had point to use before they expire and the 9mm is a pretty typical buy for matches as compared to the Apocalypse. So I saved a few bucks - big deal.

Don't hate the Player...hate the Game!

I bought 10 shares of Apple yesterday at $245 a share. A month ago, those same shares would have cost me well over $300/share.

Ammo/bullets are really no different. Markets are not good or bad, they are what they are. I guess you should be glad with the 4K you got at the bottom price...

GEM said:

The local big car dealership is laying off 55 people. The mom and pop fish restaurant tells me they have a 75% drop in income. I feel for them as they can't now afford price gouging bullets. Guess, I'm not feeling this issue.

I feel for me as my retirement portfolion is clobbered for quite a bit. But wait, luckily - I saw this might be happening and went by Cabela's and bought several hundred rounds of 9mm at $10.88 per 50 and a box of 500 22 LR. Bought some 223 and 12 gauge slugs at normal prices last week. Actually - I had point to use before they expire and the 9mm is a pretty typical buy for matches as compared to the Apocalypse. So I saved a few bucks - big deal.

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All the major Automakers just shut down all their plants!

For the OP probably everything is out of stock by now.

I would like to highlight what others here have said.

RMR is a stand-up company. They changed nothing during this latest fiasco (so called shortage.)

While I am breathing they have my support.

GravelRider said:

Thanks again for everyone's responses. I think my knee jerk reaction was a bit of an overreaction. Who knows how their overhead has changed, and, of course, supply and demand. I ended up buying more at the inflated price. I will definitely keep RMR in mind for future purchases though. I think, for now, I'm pretty good on my components and ammo, so I'll wait for the prices to come down before making any new purchases.

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Don't hold your breath. It will be bad for a long time based on past history