CZ 75/ CZ 75c trigger

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I would like to know about the characteristics of the CZ 75 sa/da trigger ---

First - do the original CZ 75 and the compact version have the same mechanism? Are there any differences between the two , or are they one and the same?

Next - could folks with experience with this pistol(s) comment of overall trigger feel and characteristics ... length of travel , sa break and so on. My sa/da auto loader hammer fired comparative reference base consists of the S&W 5906 and Beretta 92.

Any other general comments on the CZ 75 are welcome.

Thank you.
 
I have a 75B, a Cold War Commemorative, and it had the worst trigger of any semi auto I own, with the exception of a original Ruger LCP. It was gritty, a lot of creep, and cammed the hammer back as the trigger was pulled. You could see the hammer hooks and sear looking over the hammer and see the sears long travel up the hammer hooks. The double action was probably ok, but I only shot it double action a few times. I converted it to single action, worked on the hammer, changed some springs, and now the trigger pull is good.
Overall they are a good pistol and shoot accurately.
 
The trigger on the 75B and.compact are the same. They are solid guns and the trigger improves with use. Cajun Gun Works can give you a very good trigger if you’re willing to spend some additional money.
 
I bought a CZ75 B 5 or 6 years ago and the trigger was its biggest downside. After installing a lighter powered mainspring and the Cagun Gun Works adjustable hammer and sear set the trigger is pretty good but that adds considerable costs to the gun.
 
The triggers vary a lot on stock cz guns, most having creep and grit. They are, however, easy to work on and improve, and much improvement can be accomplished without new parts. I second the cz forum @gifbohane mentioned! You will find explicit threads on smoothing the action and upgrading the trigger/hammer interface there.
 
You have probably already read what I will say. II have small hands and can not get a finger to the double action trigger easily without altering my grip. For me, the regular sized CZ with the regular trigger is hard to use in DA.

I am a range user, target shooter, and so I just cock the trigger back and always use the gun in SA. Yeah, it cams back a bit but not a crisis.

I do have a SA with adjustable sights from Cajun gun works and they took away the camming and put on the sights and the gun is now really wonderful. But yes. it sure did cost extra.

I have not seen or held the smaller version, but I would like to. If the grip is smaller the DA trigger might then not be a problem for me

I am a fan of CZ and the only gun that really fits me better is the Walther PPQ.
 
Yeah, the DA trigger on my 97b was really too long for me to reach. I could do it, but it was a real stretch. SA was OK, but was still a little long in my opinion. I just converted my pistol to a SAO and now it has a short trigger reach, very nice reset, and a lighter trigger weight (3-3/4lbs). The hammer still cams back, but it is smooth, almost no grit, and mostly unnoticeable. All done for the cost of a 5SAO CZ trigger and a sear spacer (removed the disconnector, FPB, FPB lifter & spring and inserted the spacer in their place). Total cost $40, and about 1 hr of disassembly and polishing all the internal bearing surfaces. I got the trigger and spacer from CGW. It was a dramatic difference from stock condition. I really never shot the pistol in DA anyway, because of the long reach.
 
The DA reach is too long for me. The SA has a rolling break not crisp like 1911 more like a good striker trigger. I have a 75 Kadet that I love but I hardly ever shoot DA. My 75 Tac Sport is one of the most accurate pistols I've ever shot.
 
Sounds as though the general consensus is - The CZ75 stock trigger is not excellent ; one can have a very good sa/da semi auto if there is a willingness to invest in trigger upgrades.

At the risk of speaking heresy - if there were existed a sa/da version of the High Power the world would be a better place. I am spoiled by that trigger , it makes an average shooter like me into a really good shooter.
 

That is really interesting. When I get the time later today I look forward to reading all I can about that variation. I wonder if the sa trigger of the HPda had(has) all the characteristics of the standard High Power ; were there any concessions made to accommodate the da mechanism...?
Thank you Mr Watson.


And that is what that is.
 
I have the standard 75B; I have large hands so reach is not an issue for me. My trigger has a lot of travel in DA and still substantial travel (I call it take up) in SA but I would say that the travel is fairly smooth. The design is solid and well engineered, I like it and shoot it well. I also own an SP-01 Target ll with the internal work which is a vast improvement over the 75B - but you pay for that enhancement in the purchase price. With that said, I enjoy both models; fine, pragmatic handguns.
 
Yeah, the DA trigger on my 97b was really too long for me to reach. I could do it, but it was a real stretch. SA was OK, but was still a little long in my opinion. I just converted my pistol to a SAO and now it has a short trigger reach, very nice reset, and a lighter trigger weight (3-3/4lbs). The hammer still cams back, but it is smooth, almost no grit, and mostly unnoticeable. All done for the cost of a 5SAO CZ trigger and a sear spacer (removed the disconnector, FPB, FPB lifter & spring and inserted the spacer in their place). Total cost $40, and about 1 hr of disassembly and polishing all the internal bearing surfaces. I got the trigger and spacer from CGW. It was a dramatic difference from stock condition. I really never shot the pistol in DA anyway, because of the long reach.
Good to hear your happy with the results!
 
"I have the standard 75B; I have large hands so reach is not an issue for me. My trigger has a lot of travel in DA and still substantial travel (I call it take up) in SA but I would say that the travel is fairly smooth. The design is solid and well engineered, I like it and shoot it well."

Pretty much my experience. I have XXL hands, so the length of travel doesn't bother me. The DA isn't light (about average), but it's smooth. SA is good. I have a lot of 9mm pistols. The CZ75, 1911, and PPQ are my current favorites.

My FiL is my size and consistently shoots his CZ75 (which he bought very soon after he shot mine) better than any of his other large collection of service pistols.
 
My brother had one of the original Cold War CZ-75s which he got from a buddy of his. I tried it out but with my small hands it was definitely too far of a reach in DA mode. SA trigger reach was better but still somewhat long and heavy. Have found the trigger on my P01 to be much more user friendly both in the distance to reach it and in it's improved feel. DA is still a little bit heavy though not as much as the CZ-75 and SA is very short, smooth on the take-up, and breaks cleanly.
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I find it a bit challenging to keep the CZ compact variations straight in my mind. If I have it right -

The 75 Compact is essentially the same as the 75 , except a bit shorter in height and length.

The pistol above has an alloy frame. It shares the same trigger mechanism as the original 75. The PCR version is essentially the same except for having no rail.

The 75 P01 is also alloy , and incorporates modular components.

The P07 has a polymer frame.

There sure is a lot of overlap in that series. Did I get it right? Bannockburn , please explain to me the trigger difference between the original 75 and the compact in your image. And , is the pistol in the image the P01 you spoke of?
 
I handled many 75b's in stores when I was contemplating buying one, and as others have stated the variance in trigger feel was noticeable to me early on. One would have an excellent trigger for a defense gun, and the next would be gritty and creepy. In any case I realized they were just too small for my hands anyway, and while I figured I could find larger grips, I just never moved on one.

However, if you want to know what a nice CZ trigger can be if done right, handle a Shadow 2 at your next opportunity. That CZ 75 based gun now has me selling off many of my guns I thought were decent. Even if you don't want o spend the coin on one, they are worth handling to see what is possible.
 
I really liked the pistol overall, but my basic CZ75B DA/SA had a horrible SA trigger.
You could see the hammer get pushed back a fraction of an inch in the SA mode before the break.
 
At the risk of speaking heresy - if there were existed a sa/da version of the High Power the world would be a better place. I am spoiled by that trigger , it makes an average shooter like me into a really good shooter.

Not an opinion you see often — a positive take on the Hi-Power trigger, I mean, not the DA/SA heresy. The average Hi-Power trigger is pretty bad.
 
Perhaps my compact is an anomaly, but it's got a great DA trigger and an excellent SA trigger. Yes, as noted, even on the "Compact," the DA trigger reach is ... a tad longer than most. And yes, operation of the 75-B and the 75C are exactly the same. Some say the compact is too heavy for a concealed carry pistol (of its size), but I say no. Yes, there are better factory sights than CZ's, but they are not bad if you're using this pistol solely as a defensive carry pistol.
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Depends on the model. The CZ's with the tuned trigger and skeletonized hammer that was trapezoid shaped, were the best DA/SA's ever. Shadow 2, I'm sure, is just as good or better. Round hammers were noticeably lower end.
 
I really liked the pistol overall, but my basic CZ75B DA/SA had a horrible SA trigger.
You could see the hammer get pushed back a fraction of an inch in the SA mode before the break.
The Cajun Gun Works Race Hammer Kit will (would have) eliminate that camming-back and give you a good S/A trigger. Additional CGW parts just make the guns better and better the more parts you add. :)

I've bought 5 CZ 75-based guns and a 97B. Perhaps I got lucky, but none of them had a bad trigger from the factory in the sense of being gritty or anything like that. They were heavier in both D/A and S/A than I prefer (but not even remotely horrible like an HK DA/SA), so I tried a Cajun Gun Works Ultra-Lite Kit in one of them. It made a huge difference considering how little the kit cost, and soon all of them had CGW parts. I also was interested in eliminating the camming back in S/A so into the 85 Combat I put several other CGW parts including the most important one, their Race Hammer Kit. That 85 Combat feels BETTER in terms of the trigger than the stock factory target guns that I've handled (Shadow 2 and Tactical Sport Orange). They also make a kit for the Shadow 2 that, given my experience with CGW parts in "lesser" models, I'd be unable to avoid installing if I had a Shadow 2.

IME, a basic CZ 75-based gun and some well-chosen CGW parts (albeit about $250 worth if you really want a fine result) will result in a BETTER trigger than the factory target guns that I've held.
 
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