Sierra Bullets and CPX 3&4 game question

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Did Sierra ever make a bullet for big boned, heavy muscled game? They do not have bonded or solid bullets in their lineup. Although I am not going to hunt anything more dangerous than black bear in the near future, for which the Pro-hunter and Game King would do well, I assume that I would have to go to a different manufacturer for one of the African big five or Grizzly.
 
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I've loaded 150 game kings for years and hunted deer with 'em from a 7mm Rem Mag out west of the Pecos in Texas and in the Guadelupe Mts of New Mexico just north of the Texas state line. I can tell you with that combination, don't shoot anything inside 100 yards. You'll destroy all kinds of meat. It works out beyond 100 yards.

I've used the rifle for 4 deer and went to a .308 at much lower velocity using a 150 game king which works well on deer. Ditto, my .257 Roberts with a 100 grain game king. I'd gone back to my tried and true .257 Bob, but I'd won this .308 as a door prize at a gun show and I'd learned to very much like it on pigs and deer. These loads are very accurate, too. A guy at the range who had some spare ammo for 7 mag gave me a box since he'd gotten rid of his 7 mag. The loads were very accurate, Federal Premium 160 Nosler Partitions. These were quite accurate, but were plain base with a lowish (I thought) BC. Actual BC is .475 and when I ran the exterior ballistics, it looked surprisingly good and I worked up a load with 'em and loaded 50 rounds for the trip. Well, I had an opportunity recently to take an elk hunt. I wanted to take the 7 mag since that's what I bought it for even though I knew the 308 would work despite the Game King bullet. The .308 had completely penetrated many hogs for me straight through the shoulder with that load. But, I wanted the 7 just because. I took a very large cow elk at 200 yards with it. The Nosler Partition penetrated completely on a shoulder shot. I know that game king would have not totally penetrated. It would likely have disintegrated on that clavicle. That bone was huge and thick.

So, if you wanna be SURE on big game like elk, go controlled expansion. Otherwise, on deer, six of one, half dozen of the other except perhaps on something sub caliber like .223. :D

That's my experience, FWIW.
 
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I've loaded 150 game kings for years and hunted deer with 'em from a 7mm Rem Mag out west of the Pecos in Texas and in the Guadelupe Mts of New Mexico just north of the Texas state line. I can tell you with that combination, don't shoot anything inside 100 yards. You'll destroy all kinds of meat. It works out beyond 100 yards.

I've used the rifle for 4 deer and went to a .308 at much lower velocity using a 150 game king which works well on deer. Ditto, my .257 Roberts with a 100 grain game king. I'd gone back to my tried and true .257 Bob, but I'd won this .308 as a door prize at a gun show and I'd learned to very much like it on pigs and deer. These loads are very accurate, too. A guy at the range who had some spare ammo for 7 mag gave me a box since he'd gotten rid of his 7 mag. The loads were very accurate, Federal Premium 160 Nosler Partitions. These were quite accurate, but were plain base with a lowish (I thought) BC. Actual BC is .475 and when I ran the exterior ballistics, it looked surprisingly good and I worked up a load with 'em and loaded 50 rounds for the trip. Well, I had an opportunity recently to take an elk hunt. I wanted to take the 7 mag since that's what I bought it for even though I knew the 308 would work despite the Game King bullet. The .308 had completely penetrated many hogs for me straight through the shoulder with that load. But, I wanted the 7 just because. I took a very large cow elk at 200 yards with it. The Nosler Partition penetrated completely on a shoulder shot. I know that game king would have not totally penetrated. It would likely have disintegrated on that clavicle. That bone was huge and thick.

So, if you wanna be SURE on big game like elk, go controlled expansion. Otherwise, on deer, six of one, half dozen of the other except perhaps on something sub caliber like .223. :D

That's my experience, FWIW.

Thanks MCgunner. Good to know.
 
I shot an elk (CPX 3?) this winter with a 225 grain Prohunter in 338 win mag which to my mind is what a 225 grain 338 hunting projectile should be designed to handle. I recovered the bullet from the hide on the opposite side of a broadside shot. I had been using 250 grain bullets as I generally prefer full pass through shots but these shot well so I tried them out. It still weighed 196.8 grains which I was very impressed with. However, for further context, it hit no bones aside from ribs. This marks only one promising test passed and I don’t know what would happen if I upped velocities or hit bigger bones. I don’t think it’s enough to recommend it for African plains game but maybe leopard? I possess no expertise to advise there, just a strong interest and desire to visit the Dark Continent. I would look at a bigger bonded bullet for grizzlies, too. If I was chasing something that might gore me or eat me, I’d feel better behind a 375..... or 416.... or 458.... or a 500 NE double rifle and a solid bullet or two.

Pardon the rambling but I suppose context for the hunt matters dramatically, as well. I can afford to experiment a bit with elk bullets because elk hunting is in my back yard. If I was spending thousands of dollars on a trip of a lifetime, I’d be shooting the best terminal performing bullets in terms of integrity and penetration in the heaviest appropriate platform that I have while anticipating the possibility of a less than ideal shot presentation. Doesn’t mean other options wouldn’t work or others are wrong for thinking differently but I’d tend hedge my bets on the bigger, heavier side.

BTW, here’s a link to a pic of the bullet: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/hunting-bullets-what-did-you-use.859881/page-4
Just scroll down the page a little to find the post.
 
Did Sierra ever make a bullet for big boned, heavy muscled game? They do not have bonded or solid bullets in their lineup. Although I am not going to hunt anything more dangerous than black bear in the near future, for which the Pro-hunter and Game King would do well, I assume that I would have to go to a different manufacturer for one of the African big five or Grizzly.
A larger bore (7+mm) heavy for caliber pro Hunter is about as tough as they offer, for the average guy, that's plenty tuff too. However there's a reason Barnes never died out before lead free became a thing and partitions caught on fast too...... If I have any doubts about a prohunter performing properly (b.c. non withstanding) then likely a copper or aframe is needed. bonded bullets are a very healthy compromise but the pH is very tough to start with so for me, a bonded bullet (while tuff) only brings bc to the table over a prohunter, copper, or aframe.
 
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