NYS stops processing pistol permits and shuts down remington plant

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Friend of mine sent me this link. As a result of covid19, nys is putting pistol permit applications on hold and is shutting down the remington plant in Ilion (1/6 of herkimer counties economy) until april 30th, deeming it non essential.

Seems like our govenor thinks its more important to be able to get a cup of coffee from starbucks or grab a bottle of liquor than it is to protect ones family. Waiting for him shut down guns stores and deeming them non essential next.....

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/new-york-suspends-pistol-permitting/
 
In a world of priorities, what is more essential? Guns or food? Granted there is a lot of items in between the two on that continuum.

Yep, rancid as it is, Starbucks is a food vendor.

Not saying I agree with this move but I am sure anyone who can think objectively could have told you that The Arms would be shut down before Starbucks.
 
Los Angeles Sheriff says he wants gun shops closed as non essential.... pot shops have already been deemed essential.

No joke.
 
I wonder if Remington Defense (the portion of that company that exclusively deals with contracts and specific products to supply federal agencies, the military, etc.) has also shut down?
 
I wonder if Remington Defense (the portion of that company that exclusively deals with contracts and specific products to supply federal agencies, the military, etc.) has also shut down?

Yes, all of Remington Ilion has been shut down including the defense group, what's little is left of it. I don't think Remington has any open contracts with the US military other than a few maintenance/refit contracts on M24/M2010.
 
Starbucks is Great for guns!
Perfect tiny place to quickly find somebody, and support the Second Amendment.

Brought my Walther PPK/S for a meeting with the buyer inside Starbucks, in Germantown (Memphis suburb)--we went behind the area into a separate parking lot.

Remington: at least the ammo plant should still be open in Lonoke, east of Little Rock AR. Right by I-40.

States like NY will continue to violate the US Constitution in every way possible.. What a shame for the Remington plant there.
Remember that Ho Chi Minh's plan was to spend decades First liberating Vietnam one step at a time, while later also "converting" it to hard core "socialism".

It's happening here in some states.
So ironic that a few states where the US Revolutionary War was fought now are accepting gradual loss of their hard-earned freedoms. They neglect to recognize, or are to indifferent to notice the accumulation of losses over the years.
 
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Yes, all of Remington Ilion has been shut down including the defense group, what's little is left of it. I don't think Remington has any open contracts with the US military other than a few maintenance/refit contracts on M24/M2010.
There are versions of the 870 and other versions of the 700 (MK13 for example) currently in US service, along with warranty/maintenance contracts. In addition, other US agencies as well as the forces of allied nations use products from Remington Defense.
 
Sucks to I found a few good deals on Siamese mauser actions. The " safe act " does not allow private sale without a ffl, can't even let family borrow a gun. There plans are falling in to place.
 
Massachusetts did that almost three weeks ago.

It's less nefarious and more about cronyism. If you keep government employees in their cubicles, they won't have the mandated isolation, so, if they get sick, they sic the Union on the bosses. Because there's a Public Employee Union, you cannot let some staff go and not others (it's not faaaaiiirrrr!). So, you tell the bureaucratic staffers to go home and shelter in place. Everybody gets paid, Union gets its dues, bossses look like they've done A Good Thing.

The problem is not that the present government is closing a permit office to send it's staff home. The problem is that the people in those places allowed laws to be created which require permits at some previous time.
 
There are versions of the 870 and other versions of the 700 (MK13 for example) currently in US service, along with warranty/maintenance contracts. In addition, other US agencies as well as the forces of allied nations use products from Remington Defense.

What is already deliver had little bearing.
Right now Remington has no open delivery contracts on any weapon systems and no major maintaince/refit efforts going on. They probably have ammo contracts but that is all handled in Arkansas and Utah.

Whether they have over seas contracts will make little difference to determining if the are an essential service to the US Gov.

Apparently they are not as they are shutdown.
 
Probably gun stores are next. But at least we can get a cut of coffee.
The LGS i frequent looks like its shutting down (although they have not). Very few guns on the shelf and limited selection of ammo. Huge rush
Don't read too much into this, EVERYTHING is being shut down in NYS.
Not true. Companies are finding ways to be deemed "essential". Such as comfort tech windows blinds. They were supposed to be shut down, than were told to make masks, than they said they make blinds for doctors offices so now they are deemed essential... i work for a john deere dealer, we are "essential" due to agricultural support woth the exception of the employess fixing the smaller equipment, so half the staff is not working. Companies like haney reels are still going because they make reels and do repairs on them which are used by fire companies, as goes for overhead door companies that service the fire house garage doors. So if they can weasel a waynt ok be deemed 'essential" they sre still up and running.

With that said and to get back on topic, if remington does repairs for military and police weapons at the facility they should be an essential company. But cuomo plays political horse **** and shut them down untill april 30. It is the only company/industry that has an actual set date, no one else that i have heard of has been given a date. Its going to put a major hurting on that county.

NYC always seems dictates the rest of the state. From west chester down to NYC there are 25k or so cases of the virus. Up here near albany we have around 200 cases which is closer in line with the rest of the country. But yes the entire state is "shut down" as a result.
 
My wife keeps trying to telle that guns and bullets aren't that important right now, but was telling all her friends that we could go out and hunt what we need to eat. How are we supposed to do that if "we" have no bullets.

Not that I'm without but would like some more. I went into PA a couple days ago and picked up 500 projectiles for my 9mm, the shop, only open Saturday 11 - 3 was supposed to be closed but let me buy them anyway, good customer and all, but no primers. Most local shops here, binghamton area are closed too.

It's sad when the governor doesn't see firearms as essential.
 
I spoke my friend who works at the Arms (Remington Plant as referred to locally). Last update from Tuesday last week was the Remington lines that make the 870 and 700's were working four day weeks. Marlin was working as fast as they could because demand was high. He stated that there was turn over in the management department dealing with some managers with "ship first" attitudes. He was guessing last week that the plant would shut down. Him and his co-workers keep the little cities of Ilion and Herkimer from being total ghost towns. There is not too much going on in "the valley" as we refer to it. He has food and supplies already. He also said rumor has it (rumor, hearsay, speculation) the the company was considering moving the pistol line from Huntsville to Ilion over quality issues. This is just what it is, plant rumors, but one never knows.
 
We should be careful about repeating language from many of these reports. I'll bet the state didn't "shut down" the Rem plant so much as not explicitly give them authorization to continue operations as an essential business. Everything is shut down. A friend works in a boring old soap factory, with positive cases. They were getting ready to shut down when the state (feds?) came to them to say, actually, can you guys stay open, and switch to sanitizer? Yes. So they are at reduced staffing, finagling inventory and fixes as everyone else is shut down, and trying not to infect each other so they can stay running.

"The state shut down" implies State Police showed up with padlocks and chains. It's all administrative though. Read up on the couple of megachurches, etc. that are still operating, and... nothing has happened to them. No one has come to force them to close (yet).

IF there is explicit anti-gun-store/factory action later, this sort of reporting on non-actions will weaken the impact of those reports if they do happen.
 
I don't know the CEO of Remington made a video offering the Ilion manufacturing space to Governor Cuomo and President Trump. The plant is closed and the man is desperate to keep the plant open, Remington has bills to pay, a bunch of debt (even after the bankruptcy), and now significantly less income as it largest manufacturing facility just got shut down. (oh and the picture of the internal work space shown in the video is Huntsville not Ilion, there is nothing that large/open, well-lit, and nice looking in the Ilion plant.)

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-Fz6Jjpa4O/?igshid=qan1qpinpxqy
 
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The state published a list of things that had to be shut down and those that didn't. Most unless determined to be essential had to shut down. State mandated Remington to shut down. The CEO offered the plant to the Gov to make emergency supplies and equipment in Ilion. Thanks for the video by the way. The plant although old isn't so bad. I can't blame him, the county is very depressed already and this makes it worse.
 
The LGS i frequent looks like its shutting down (although they have not). Very few guns on the shelf and limited selection of ammo. Huge rush
If I fired every handgun in the store right now I could do a 21 gun salute. (See how cleverly I did that?)
Nary an AR.
Less than a week ago we had a ton more inventory, but the weekend rush decimated it. We were out of .380, 9mm, .40, .223, 5.56.
Got some 9 and .223 FedExed in. Crazy
 
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