1911 in 9mm

RIA, Taurus, at the low end and just about everyone else. Springfield makes the EMP with the scaled down grip, Its a nice size but the full size 1911 just works. 9mm in a full sized 1911 is a pussycat.

I like the RIA https://armscor.com/firearms/ria/rock-series/rock-ultra-fs-9mm/

George Dickel said:

I'm interested in a 9mm 1911 pistol. I've only found one in all the LGS's around here and it is a Springfield but I forget the model. I didn't like the feel of it because the grip was reduced in size due to the 9mm being a smaller round. I want one with the same dimensions as a full size 1911 in .45 ACP. Is there such an animal?

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wally said:

Springfield makes the EMP with the scaled down grip,

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The EMP is the only 9mm 1911 with a reduced size.

All other 9mm 1911's must use some kind of spacer in the mags, because the standard dimensions are designed for the .45 Auto round.

Springfield offers a whole bunch of 1911's in 9mm that aren't the EMP. https://www.springfield-armory.com/1911-series/

Here's a long term test the late Todd Green did on a Warren Tactical Springfield 9mm 1911. If I remember correctly, he took it over 60,000 rounds.

http://pistol-training.com/archives/category/range-reports/springfield-1911-9mm

At the high end, it has been amusing to hear of people buying another $3000+ gun because it shoots cheaper ammo than their deluxe .38 or .45.

I've had my eye on this Ruger - https://ruger.com/products/sr1911CommanderStyle/specSheets/6722.html - since they were released. It's the same size as a .45 ACP Commander type 1911.

I'm not sure, but Springfield has their target model 1911 with a 5" barrel. I tried to copy a link, but oddly none of the gun shop links I tried are working.

I have a Rock Island that shoots to point of aim. I'm not a big fan of 9mm but I do love the 1911

Colt Competition in 9 mm is a solid gun. I would buy one again, well worth the money.

Have a Springfield Loaded model in 9mm and a STI Staccato R single stack, both great to shoot.

This Kimber is a full sized 9mm 1911.



I added the Ultra Dot after Clark drilled and tapped the thing for their base. I took it 2700 Bullseye pistol shooting. I thought the reduced recoil would improve my scores. It did not. Any recoil reduction was small, my scores did not go up, and I had three guns to clean at the end of a Bullseye match.

It is my considered opinion that a 45ACP 1911 is good enough.

George Dickel said:

I'm interested in a 9mm 1911 pistol. I've only found one in all the LGS's around here and it is a Springfield but I forget the model. I didn't like the feel of it because the grip was reduced in size due to the 9mm being a smaller round. I want one with the same dimensions as a full size 1911 in .45 ACP. Is there such an animal?

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While I know they exist, I have actually never dealt with a 1911 platform, 9mm from U.S. or foreign makers that was not still a full sized .45 ACP dimensioned frame.

I love my Kimber Aegis for its 10 round carry load, accuracy and ammo compatibility with my CZs and High Powers as well as carbines. It has taken over as my "full-size" carry pistol from a truly full sized .45 cap 1911.

In short, to directly answer your question. There are actually more full-sized framed *1911* 9mm pistols than there are smaller grip *1911* 9mm pistols. They classically follow the Colt pattern of contending by merely running two grooves down the magazine.
As shown here, they are, for all intents and purposes, a full sized .45acp mag with grooves to center the smaller diameter cartridge and different feed lips in most cases. Fore-aft movement is minimal and inconsequential.

Todd.

I just picked up my third RIA 1911, this one in 9mm. I really wanted one in 38 Super but the LGS had a good price on the 9mm version.

Just my opinion, so don't throw any rocks, but to me, the 1911 is best suited to .45 ACP and the Hi-Power to 9mm.

Sistema1927 said:

Just my opinion, so don't throw any rocks, but to me, the 1911 is best suited to .45 ACP and the Hi-Power to 9mm.

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I feel the same way. But sometimes there is nothing wrong with a little variety on your life. I all ready have a few 1911s in 45 and wanted one in a different caliber. I even have a Star Super A in 9mm Largo, pretty close to a 1911 without actually being one.

I currently own 2. Both are excellent shooters and have the same dimensions as their 45 ACP friends.

A Dan Wesson Valkyrie Commander



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The RIA 9mm 1911 uses the exact same frame as their .45. I know, because I used an RIA 9mm gun as a basis for a WW2 clone in .45. All I had to do was switch the ejector.

Have you looked at the CZ Shadow2 or Tactical Sport Orange in 9mm?

The TSO is a bit larger than a standard 1911 and the Shadow 2 is just about the same size.

The TSO will immediately feel familiar to a 1911 person, where the Shadow 2 will need to have the larger safety lever installed. But that comes in the case with the pistol, and installation takes just a few minutes.

Just about everyone makes a 9mm 1911 these days with the full grip, as was noted pretty much just the EMP is scaled down to 9mm, and maybe the EDC X9 if you count it 1911ish.

I would recommend looking at a lightweight if carry is at all a possibility, as I really find the lightweight 9mm 1911 is a joy to shoot and much lighter to carry. I don't notice much of a performance difference between a lightweight 9mm and a steel frame 9mm, whereas I find a significant difference between the two in .45.

Ruger makes a nice mid range lightweight 9mm, and if you go up a bit to around $1k-$1200 there are some great Dan Wesson offerings in aluminum that really knock it out (Vigil, Guardian, Valkyrie).

Here's a lightweight kimber in 9mm. $599. I have a two tone kimber in 9mm and it runs great. https://www.cabelas.com/product/KIMBER-LW-SEMI-AUTO-PISTOLS/3471092.uts

https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/719017615
Here is a Springfield that would run you mid to upper $800.
Or for a bit more, Ruger's target model.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/100065

I have a PT1911 stainless in 9 mm. It's pretty much identical to it's brother in 45 I used to have except it weighs 2 more ounces because of the smaller bore. Neither gun has ever given me a problem and both have shot any factory or handloads without a hiccup. I let a grandson (darn kids) talk me out of the 45 but the 9 mm isn't going anywhere. I still have my 70 series gold cup so I don't miss the 45.

I have an AO that I love, and may buy a Colt. I think every other maker is not quite right dimensionaly. Reduced slide mass, sometimes external extractors. My AO slide weighs the same as a 45acp, so cycling light loads does not work. But 115gr at 1300fps feels like 22mag

My 9mm 1911’s are 1911’s. Could run them with a 45 slide, ejector, extractor and mag. I even have one that I can change the breechface, extractor, ejector, barrel and mag and go.

If you have a 9mm 1911 and it’s smaller than a 1911 in 45 ACP, it’s not a 1911.

I have a Ruger,RIA, Springfield Armory and S&W in 9mm and the frame size is the same as the 45 acp version. It's just a matter of how much do you want to spend the RIA is a decent gun for the money as is SA and Ruger gives the best bang for the buck. S&W is a target version from their Performance Center.