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All good things. Well done.

I would still look into lighter disconnector, no weaker springs, but a lighter pull.

It’s funny that you should mention that. The first thing I did when I got the G48 was find someone selling minus connectors for it. The guys ad made it sound like a must have. Lol

So, I get it in and go to swap it out and guess what? I already had one. I’m a dumba$$ for not having checked first.
 
Some disco's have a nasty wall, or bypass a safety mechanism. My Lone Wolf 3.5 is pretty nice. Not much different than a G35 - connector.

I don't recommend anything but the OEM trigger springs now. Sometimes I use a medium or light striker spring. Going too soft makes the trigger slow to reset, and unsafe. Sometimes you can stretch the soft spring to get it just right.

It's mostly just attention to detail stuff, that a robot made pistol just doesn't get.
 
Get a Walther PPQ sub compact. Much better trigger than you will find in a stock, and most custom, Glocks. Grip is 0.2 inches wider and half inch shorter overall. Available in 10 or 15 round magazines with extender.

https://waltherarms.com/ppq-sub-compact/

missed how this point is relevant to this thread...or is it just another opportunity to bash a Glock?
Sooo, you've got a system (Kahr) which works perfectly, and you're changing it, for NO good reason.

HOKAY, then ...

Reason? Since when does a free American need a reason to run a different style or make firearm?

or would have applauded him had he swapped a Glock for a Kahn?
 
It’s funny that you should mention that. The first thing I did when I got the G48 was find someone selling minus connectors for it. The guys ad made it sound like a must have. Lol

So, I get it in and go to swap it out and guess what? I already had one. I’m a dumba$$ for not having checked first.

Well that's nice though. The longslides/tactical/competition come with it too.
 
Yeah, way back when I used to "race" a Glock 24, I went down to 4lb striker spring and never had any failures, even with winchester or cci primers. Stock striker spring on the G48 is a 5.5 striker spring, which isn't really heavy anyway. It's not like going with a 4lb spring is going to reduce the pull weight by 1.5lbs. I'm not planning on messing with the trigger spring. I want that sucker to pop back where its supposed to be as quickly as possible.

I like the Glock connectors. I've always used one. I don't think I've ever had an aftermarket connector.

For those of you thinking of trying the over travel stop, just keep in mind that it has its limitations. It appears that the Glock trigger system relies on follow through to completely disengage the striker safety. In other words, with the stock trigger bar, the striker can actually be released before the safety plunger is depressed. On my setup, I literally laid by slide next to my frame to see exactly where the lever on the trigger bar needed to be in order to disengage the plunger safety. I then adjusted the stop to allow enough follow through to disengage the plunger safety. So, you can't eliminate all overtravel, but it got rid of enough of it to make a difference to me. Man, I could get rid of all of the overtravel if I could just move that lever on the trigger bar back by 1mm.

Just for giggles, I set the overtravel stop to allow just enough to drop the striker and geez, the distance between reset and break was ALMOST in single action territory.
 
Well that's nice though. The longslides/tactical/competition come with it too.

Yeah, that's why I didn't even think about it when I ordered the minus connector. I certainly didn't expect to see one in a G48. As it turns out, I didn't need to mess with that at all. Really, of all that I did, the two things that made the most difference were the plunger spring and overtravel stop. I mean the stock trigger sucked because it pinched, but I could have lived with it. All in all, the G48 was pretty well setup out of the box.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Kahr. The trigger was nice. Really nice after a bunch of thousands of rounds, but that one round sitting in the bottom of the mag pouch will drive anyone crazy. The G48 is also a tad shorter in the butt and holds twice as many rounds. I'm really getting the hang of it now too. I'm really glad that I stumbled across it. I finally have my G19 that I always WANTED to love but didn't love me.
 
missed how this point is relevant to this thread...or is it just another opportunity to bash a Glock?

Better sights, better trigger. The PPQ line doesn't use a partially cocked striker like a Glock, so the pull will be naturally smoother and a fraction of an inch longer. Kahr also uses longer trigger pulls but smooth sears. Something the OP is more accustomed to. The SC PPQ model is almost exact same size as the G48, which the OP liked.
 
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Better sights, better trigger. The PPQ line doesn't use a partially cocked striker like a Glock, so the pull will be naturally smoother and a fraction of an inch longer. Kahr also uses longer trigger pulls but smooth sears. Something the OP is more accustomed to. The SC PPQ model is almost exact same size as the G48, which the OP liked.

OP wasn’t asking for alternatives, he was asking for “Glock advice” on how to make adjustments to the gun he had.

When the shoe is on the other foot, and someone asks advice on pistol XYZ and someone says “just get a Glock 19”, they generally get counseled for being a “Fanboy”.

I have nothing against your choice...I had a PPQ myself. Good gun, but in the end I replaced it with my preferred flavor.
 
OP wasn’t asking for alternatives, he was asking for “Glock advice” on how to make adjustments to the gun he had.

Some people are just not cut out for Glocks. I know I am not. If a Glock isn't working for someone, my thought process is to try something else and see if that works.

I did look at the PPQ. Briefly. It’s fatter and taller than the G48. I looked at the G48 because it offered more than the Kahr in terms of CCW.

Valid criticism. If you want to keep trying out the G48 the next step I suggest is upgrading the trigger. Start small and work your way up to find the best solution. The cheapest and simplest part upgrade to a stock Glock trigger is to change to a 3 or 3.5 pound connector. Will run you about $25-50 depending on brands. More expensive options include replacing the entire trigger with a Pyramid or Apex kit for $125+

https://www.glockstore.com/Double-Diamond-3-5-Pound-Connector-for-G42-43
https://www.glockstore.com/parts-accessories/pyramid-triggers
https://store.apextactical.com/WebDirect/Products/Category?categoryId=86
 
Valid criticism. If you want to keep trying out the G48 the next step I suggest is upgrading the trigger. Start small and work your way up to find the best solution. The cheapest and simplest part upgrade to a stock Glock trigger is to change to a 3 or 3.5 pound connector. Will run you about $25-50 depending on brands. More expensive options include replacing the entire trigger with a Pyramid or Apex kit for $125+

All of that was addressed above.
 
Again, for those interested in the overtravel stop and it's adjustment, I just had a palm to face moment and figured out how to ensure that the plunger safety was completely disengaging while still taking as much advantage of the stop as possible. I first racked the slide and dry fired. Then I locked the slide back and removed the back plate and striker assembly. I then slid the slide back into battery. At this point, I'm guessing that the pistol would be in the state that it would be in after being fired. The trigger is where it is going to stop and the safety plunger should be where it will be at the moment the gun fires.I then used a flashlight to peer into the striker channel. Looking straight into the channel, I made sure that the safety plunger was completely out of the way of the striker.
 
All my Glocks (8) have stock triggers ...
Im good to go
Me too as are all the ones owned by my 2 sons(7 total)..I have shot many other HGs, with a variety of triggers

Ruger(2), Beretta(1), Sig(2), S&W(1), Colt(1), Springfield(1), CZ(1)..some good, some awful, TO ME(Beretta with it's country mile of takeup, as an example..didn't like that at all)...but the triggers and sights on my Glocks(all stock)..work, feel, just fine.

YMMV, ATMO and all that...
 
All good things. Well done.

I would still look into lighter disconnector, no weaker springs, but a lighter pull.

I already have the lightest connector made. The minus.

I just wanted to update. Went shooting today and I think I'm there. I'm able to do head shot double taps at 15 yards now. The trigger is in line.

I really don't know for sure, but I think Glock perhaps developed a new trigger bar for the 43, 48. Somehow made it thinner to accommodate the slim pistol. What I noticed when "analyzing" the situation is that when you put pressure on the trigger, the trigger bar actually bows slightly. I believe this is what accounts for the squishy feel after you hit the wall and just before the trigger breaks. What I did was strengthen the trigger bar so that it wouldn't bow. There is now no creep. You hit the wall, pull a little farther and it breaks. If you squeeze slowly, you can actually feel the sear slide down the tail of the striker. No rubbery feel at all. In hindsight, it turns out that I didn't need the new trigger at all, although I do like it better in that it doesn't pinch me.

What I needed to flatten the learning curve was three things. The mod to the trigger bar. The lightened plunger spring, although I may go back to stock and go back down to the stock 5.5lb striker spring. I'm running a 6lb right now. And the last thing was to take the bow out of the trigger bar.

I could be far off base with this, but it appears that the triggers on the slim glocks are a bit different from the others. Or, at least I'm assuming they are. I never had any problems with the triggers on my G19 or G24.
 
How did you strengthen the trigger bar?



Random thoughts:

If you run a lighter plunger spring you can improve the trigger pull, but how do you know if the plunger is returning to its home position quickly and blocking the striker? And does that even matter?

If you are using a 6lb striker spring, wouldn’t that add to the resistance on the trigger bar making it tend to flex more? What made you want to go up in striker spring weight? Did you polish the striker tail?

Would using an aftermarket (Ghost) connector also lessen the resistance on the trigger bar making it flex less?
 
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How did you strengthen the trigger bar?



Random thoughts:

If you run a lighter plunger spring you can improve the trigger pull, but how do you know if the plunger is returning to its home position quickly and blocking the striker? And does that even matter?

If you are using a 6lb striker spring, wouldn’t that add to the resistance on the trigger bar making it tend to flex more? What made you want to go up in striker spring weight? Did you polish the striker tail?

Would using an aftermarket (Ghost) connector also lessen the resistance on the trigger bar making it flex less?

Honestly, I haven't kept up with the changes that Glock has gone through from one generation to the next. I do not know what changes have been made to trigger bars, nor do I know what, if any, changes were made to accommodate the slim line of Glocks. I only know that my trigger bar flexes, even when using a 5lb striker spring. I compared my trigger bar to that of a G26, yesterday at the range and noticed that the trigger bar differed from mine in that it has one large and deep valley in the bar to lend to the rigidity of the bar. My bar has two small and shallow valleys, which are possibly inadequate, and flex is still occurring.

Let me answer your questions in order.

I strengthened the trigger bar by milling a piece of aluminum to a thickness about equivalent to that of little more than half the thickness of the trigger bar. I then cut it to match the contour of the trigger and I used jb weld to affix it to the trigger bar between the bar and the frame. The rear of the bar at the sear still flexes a tad when you hit the overtravel stop, but very slightly. The flex in the bar between the trigger and the 90* bend that leads to the cruciform is gone. In hind sight, I think I made the job harder that I had to, but the idea struck me in the middle of the night and I used what I had. What I should have done was acquire a small rod of some sort of steel, maybe spring steel, put two 90 degree bends in it at the ends, pop two holes in the trigger bar to fit the bends in the rod and adhere that to the trigger bar in between the two valleys on the side opposite the frame. This would have been cleaner. When I can get around to it, I'll give it a try. I have a spare trigger bar to use as a guinea pig. To date I have close to 1000 rounds through the gun and all is good and solid.

To the rest of your questions, the trigger bar (in it's stock form) flexes. The flex is caused by the resistance of the striker spring and there's nothing you can do to stop it from happening. As far as my appreciation of the how the connector works goes, getting a ghost connector may or may not help. I'm running a Glock 3.5lb (minus) connector and have been the whole time.

I was able to see what was going on inside of my gun as I manipulated it and dry fired it by using a fiber optic camera shoved up the mag well. I used Gorilla duct tape to hold it in place and commenced to becoming a mad scientist. This gives a good view of what's going on with the plunger and the trigger bar while the action is doing its thing. I also confirmed the working of the safety plunger by placing the camera in the striker channel with the striker removed, but this was more about setting the over travel stop to insure that the plunger safety was completely disengaging.

I'll snap a pic of the mod on the trigger bar when I unpack. I just got back from the range. I'll edit and update this post in a bit.

For those of you with all of the comments regarding YOUR number of Glocks all being stock and perfect, unless you have or have had a 43, 43X or 48, none of this applies. As far as I know.

*EDIT*

Here are the links to the trigger bar mod that I did.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/yTxH6q4m7uweUYq8A
https://photos.app.goo.gl/U1VbNiwbPSiRVTKW7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/RTxxLsNsDS4QqxiHA

I hope you can see them. Everything is so shiny.
 
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I carried a Kahr P9 for 10 or so years, learned to love the trigger. However, I always hated the fact that if you carry a spare mag, in your pocket the rounds pop out. I bought a 43X about a year ago, love it. I’ve had a gen 3 17 for years so the trigger was no big deal. I still use the stock 10 round mags with a spare in my left front pocket. I won’t go back and I’ll probably stick with the factory mags.
Still have the P9 as well as a older K9 that I picked up a few years ago and I shoot them regularly.
 
Hopefully you still have the Kahr. Seems like you were a right fit for it.

Yes, I still have it. I got it so cheap that selling it wouldn't be worthwhile. I'm not going back to it though. I have a couple thousand rounds through the G48 now and can shoot it as well as I can shoot anything else. The trigger on the Glock now surpasses that of the Kahr for me.
 
Yes, I still have it. I got it so cheap that selling it wouldn't be worthwhile. I'm not going back to it though. I have a couple thousand rounds through the G48 now and can shoot it as well as I can shoot anything else. The trigger on the Glock now surpasses that of the Kahr for me.
Huzzah!!
 
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