Jim Watson
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$ure you could.
That's all pretty discouraging advice. It's a model 19-3. I've looked around a bit and not seen any 4" blue barrels. I've seen some short ones and nickel or SS ones on ebay, but I want the 4" blue barrel. I'll contact S&W but I don't expect to hear any good news. Thanks everybody for the info.
Could a different K frame barrel be used? The model 19 barrel has a shroud around the extractor rod. But I see other K frame barrels that don't. Would that work?
Yes. I cracked the forcing cone on my Model 19 with a steady diet of full power, 158 grain jacketed bullets. I was using the revolver for IHMSA handgun Silhouette competition in standing and revolver classes.I wonder if any M-19 anywhere ever cracked the forcing cone......only using 158gr. bullets.
Word on the street is the 125 gr or 110gr magnums caused the cracking. It's also interesting that these 110gr and 125gr. 357 loads are remarkably violent on recoil, noise and muzzle flash, etc.
Todays Remington UMC 125gr JHP-SP are direct descendants of these loads from back in the day that was alleged to cause all these cracked cones.
Yes, the current production Moder 19 and 66’s do not have the flat on the bottom of the barrel and are much more capable of handling the full power loads.I found somewhere that later models M19/M66 are without flat spot (cutout) on the bottom of the barrel. If that is correct, could late model barrel be installed on earlier K-frame models like -3 or -4?
Would be possible to modify crane and/or frame, so new barrel without bottom flat could be used on older M19 and M66? In case of barrel replacement on older revolvers, how S&W handles this issue?Yes, the current production Moder 19 and 66’s do not have the flat on the bottom of the barrel and are much more capable of handling the full power loads.
S&W redesigned the frame to accomplish this. As far as I know, even if the barrels would screw into older frames, you would still end up with the flait to provide space for the crane.
The current production Model 19 Classic uses the two piece barrel common to many current production S&W revolvers. I'm sure the method to attach the barrel to the frame is different than with the old one piece barrel.Would be possible to modify crane and/or frame, so new barrel without bottom flat could be used on older M19 and M66? In case of barrel replacement on older revolvers, how S&W handles this issue?
See Post #5Do I hear a cracked frame from 158 gr CAST Magnums?
I wonder if any M-19 anywhere ever cracked the forcing cone......only using 158gr. bullets.
Word on the street is the 125 gr or 110gr magnums caused the cracking. It's also interesting that these 110gr and 125gr. 357 loads are remarkably violent on recoil, noise and muzzle flash, etc.
Todays Remington UMC 125gr JHP-SP are direct descendants of these loads from back in the day that was alleged to cause all these cracked cones.
The only S&W I have now is 686-3. However, for shooting 158 grains at something like 1100 fps, M19/M66 with 6" barrel is "as good as it gets". Same goes for Ruger Security Six. There is something in balance of those revolvers, they just feel right.The current production Model 19 Classic uses the two piece barrel common to many current production S&W revolvers. I'm sure the method to attach the barrel to the frame is different than with the old one piece barrel.
Wth the cracked forcing cone on a Model 19, I think S&W just considers you SOL these days.
Thanks, I just found more info about 2 piece barrel here http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/114250-m66-7-barrel-sleeved-durability.html .The current production Model 19 Classic uses the two piece barrel common to many current production S&W revolvers. I'm sure the method to attach the barrel to the frame is different than with the old one piece barrel.
Wth the cracked forcing cone on a Model 19, I think S&W just considers you SOL these days.
I have an old model 19 that has been in the family for many years. I recently heard about these guns developing a cracked forcing cone if too much .357 ammo was shot thru them. I looked at mine, and sure enough, I can see a very faint little crack at the bottom edge of the barrel. I have to hold it just right, in good light, to see it. But there it is. I've looked around, including S&W's forum, and found some reference to this problem. In the old days S&W would replace the barrel, but apparently they've stopped doing this. So, here's my question. Is this gun safe to shoot with standard pressure .38 special ammo? I would hate to retire it because it is such an accurate gun, and very pleasant to shoot with .38s. But is it safe?
I wonder if any M-19 anywhere ever cracked the forcing cone......only using 158gr. bullets.
Word on the street is the 125 gr or 110gr magnums caused the cracking. It's also interesting that these 110gr and 125gr. 357 loads are remarkably violent on recoil, noise and muzzle flash, etc.
Todays Remington UMC 125gr JHP-SP are direct descendants of these loads from back in the day that was alleged to cause all these cracked cones.
Mine cracked using 150 gr cast lead bullets pushed #2400 powder.