New NAA Product Release

A scaled-up version of a .22 Short Mini Revolver in .32 ACP with an optional .32 S&W cylinder would be excellent! Making both blue and stainless variants would be outstanding!

I like my .32 Guardian- its a great pocket friend!
I have put a lot of rounds down range with it with minimal issues. It only gets fed Fiocchi Euro spec ball since S&B primers are too hard.

.455_Hunter said:

A scaled-up version of a .22 Short Mini Revolver in .32 ACP with an optional .32 S&W cylinder would be excellent! Making both blue and stainless variants would be outstanding!

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As long as that spare .32 S&W cylinder is meant for .32 Long wadcutters, that would be a winner. The .32 wadcutter is by far the most available and cheapest .32 ammo that can be bought online and it's also more effective than .32 ACP given it's a wadcutter that crushes tissue and has consistent penetration.

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As long as that spare .32 S&W cylinder is meant for .32 Long wadcutters, that would be a winner. The .32 wadcutter is by far the most available and cheapest .32 ammo that can be bought online and it's also more effective than .32 ACP given it's a wadcutter that crushes tissue and has consistent penetration.

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The .22 LR Mini would probably have to be the source design for scaling to .32 S&W Long.

My only NAA product is a 32 ACP Guardian. I bought it NIB around 2011 or so from a dealer who did not have a Seecamp in stock. I've put 3400+ rounds through it over a number of years. I am 5'11" and over 200 lbs. I found it harsh to shoot and it tended to break springs, notably the trigger spring and the firing pin spring, each several times. It also broke the 1911 style magazine catch/release several times, but that continued to function each time. I cannot get a decent grip on it - it's too short a grip to control recoil, and too thin to fill my hand. The use of an American style mag button was a design mistake my opinion.

I would hope to see from NAA a locked breech CNC machined and much better fitted version of the Guardian 32. Something with a heel release which I find a superior choice in a tiny pistol, allowing for an undercut trigger guard for better control. Something with better spring designs and materials so they don't break.

I've never owned one of their revolvers but they seem to have positive accounts over many years, by people who understand and accept their limitations. In a new NAA revolver I'd like to see something double-action, small, made of good steel throughout, and chambered in a modest but acceptable sub-caliber cartridge.

unclenunzie said:

I would hope to see from NAA a locked breech CNC machined and much better fitted version of the Guardian 32. Something with a heel release which I find a superior choice in a tiny pistol, allowing for an undercut trigger guard for better control. Something with better spring designs and materials so they don't break.

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Such a design for a "Guardian II" would be immediately on my list. There is still a strong role to play for defensive pistols that are way smaller than the current "micro" 9mm platforms, plus DAO examples that don't possess the "Do I ND due to the misplaced chapstick tube today or tomorrow?" characteristic of typical striker designs.

Something like this in .32 ACP, please. This is a .32 rimfire. Would the advances in metallurgy since the 1880’s accommodate the much greater pressures?

commygun said:

Something like this in .32 ACP, please. This is a .32 rimfire. Would the advances in metallurgy since the 1880’s accommodate the much greater pressures?
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If it's a steel frame it could do .32 Mag, tho that top strap is pretty thin.

I don't really see a centerfire upscale of the current NAA single actions as a viable option tho, I don't think people are willing to pay the $400-500 it will cost for a .32 single action. Even if it was a .38 they would just buy a Taurus 856 instead.

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If it's a steel frame it could do .32 Mag, tho that top strap is pretty thin.

I don't really see a centerfire upscale of the current NAA single actions as a viable option tho, I don't think people are willing to pay the $400-500 it will cost for a .32 single action. Even if it was a .38 they would just buy a Taurus 856 instead.

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I think it depends on the size envelope. If you can get a 5-6 shot .32 mag in the size of a I-frame Smith, you may have a winner. Add a bold front sight and a melted frame, and you might have a perfect summer CCW.

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My prediction is a Ranger and Sidewinder with Black Widow features (tritium sights and rubber oversize grip.)

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I still think it’s going to be something like that.

Or maybe NAA branded whiskey.

I expect a ho-hum development of current single action pull pin revolvers.
Even in a market for small, small CALIBER CCWs, I do not see them tooling up for something useful like a .32 safety hammerless a la SW, IJ, or HR.

I imagine it will be as ground breaking as when Hornady found out their plastic tips were melting...

They say its not going to be just a color change this year.

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« on: January 08, 2024, 03:19:08 PM »

Hello NAA enthusiasts!

Hold onto your holsters because we're about to unveil a new favorite to the NAA family.

As those of you who follow us on Facebook and Instagram know, we will be unveiling a new product at SHOT show this year.

Instead of a new color combination for 2024, we are going for something that has been requested for a few years now. Picture a combination of two favorites. Any guesses?

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jmorris said:

I imagine it will be as ground breaking as when Hornady found out their plastic tips were melting...

They say its not going to be just a color change this year.

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I remember that. The most played up announcement of the century.

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How's the recoil on that .32? I've been interested in one after people here gave me conflicting info on what ammo Seecamps can and cannot shoot and figured it I wanted a small .32 the NAA might be the way to go until Kel Tec gets off its butt and does a Gen 2 P32.

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The Seecamp site has a list of approved ammo. Four loads, currently.


Of these four, I have seen Gold Dots actually in stock, more often than the others.

I don't want to get my hopes up, but if NAA is saying it's not just some cosmetics and is something vastly new then I have to think it's a new firearm. I don't think it's a Guardian, that design is antiquated. It could be a 9mm because people have wanted that from NAA for a while, but it's 2024, everybody who wants a 9mm owns a 9mm, another 9mm fish in the 9mm ocean isn't going to turn any heads.

NAA may as well stick with a revolver and in .22 because .22 is really popular (cuz it's cheap), but there's little more they can do with single action unless they want to try and compete with Ruger and Heritage. As much as it makes sense and I want them to make a smaller than J frame revolver in .22 and .32, companies usually don't work that way.

Whatever NAA reveals at SHOT people are going to be disappointed over what it's not going to be.

If I could make my Christmas wish it would be a 32 double action 5 shot revolver about halfway between the size of a J frame and the current NAA mini revovlers. I don't know what I would do with it, but it would be a neat little piece.

I think a bunch of us are on the same page about what we want.

A single action revolver or derringer has precisely zero use to me as a SD arm. It's too easy for me to stick my P32 in my pocket if I want something tiny and a tiny hammer is too difficult to manipulate under stress.

A .22 DA revolver the size of an I-frame Smith would be appealing to me. Maybe not any better than my P32, but possibly good enough to compete. A .32 DA revolver the size of an I-frame Smith would be one step further along the track of competition with the tiny autos. A .32 S&W is not going to turn any heads. Neither is .32 S&W long. .32 ACP would be shorter and have more gumption. .32 H&R? Again, long cylinder.

I suppose we'll see! It certainly seems like several of us have the same ideas of what we'd like.

Mauser lover said:

I think a bunch of us are on the same page about what we want.

A single action revolver or derringer has precisely zero use to me as a SD arm. It's too easy for me to stick my P32 in my pocket if I want something tiny and a tiny hammer is too difficult to manipulate under stress.

A .22 DA revolver the size of an I-frame Smith would be appealing to me. Maybe not any better than my P32, but possibly good enough to compete. A .32 DA revolver the size of an I-frame Smith would be one step further along the track of competition with the tiny autos. A .32 S&W is not going to turn any heads. Neither is .32 S&W long. .32 ACP would be shorter and have more gumption. .32 H&R? Again, long cylinder.

I suppose we'll see! It certainly seems like several of us have the same ideas of what we'd like.

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A modern H&R Vest Pocket?

Theoretically, you could fire .32 ACP from it, but it probably wouldn't live long.

Slightly beefed up, though, it would be a great pocket revolver.

NIGHTLORD40K said:

A modern H&R Vest Pocket?
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Theoretically, you could fire .32 ACP from it, but it probably wouldn't live long.

Slightly beefed up, though, it would be a great pocket revolver.

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Yeah, something like that. Triple action would be fine, and please use a "modern" bolt design to keep the cylinder positively locked.

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There doesn't seem to be much interest in a 4 barrel derringer, the last I saw one at SHOT was going to be in .32 and .38 and it never happened, I guess there were no investors interested in the concept as they don't see a demand for it.

Between a 4 banger derringer or a Rossi Princess/H&R Young America sized revolver in .22 and .32, the revolver would sell far better and frankly be a game changer for the current revolver market.

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My grandma had this one after her 21st birthday in 1898.
Those lead miner ruffians in SE Missouri knew better than mess with her

RJTravel said:

I am continually surprised that more ppl have not shot themselves with a naa. They are not safe for ordinary carry. We currently have 6 or 7 naa's, and they all have the same fault. Resting in the 'safety' notch it requires but a mere brush or touch to release the cylinder to spin in either direction and hammer down on live rim. I have measured the distance to release and it is .018". Eighteen thousandths. Ours are several years old so perhaps they have addressed this flaw. We love the naa's but know it is best to leave hammer down on empty chamber. Before you dismiss this with a wave of the hand, which almost always happens, try it on your own naa. You may be in for a surprise.

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Yeah, when I carried mine for a brief time in the early 1990s, it was loaded with only four rounds.

BTTT -
It would be cool if NAA made the Sidewinder & the Ranger II as a four shot .32 S&W long - a good deep conceal backup.

Armybrat said:

Yeah, when I carried mine for a brief time in the early 1990s, it was loaded with only four rounds.

BTTT -
It would be cool if NAA made the Sidewinder & the Ranger II as a four shot .32 S&W long - a good deep conceal backup.

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At 4 rounds, instead of doing a revolver it may as well be an upscaled Schuler Reform. Similar operation to a revolver, except it doesn't revolve, has no cylinder gap, timing/lockup isn't a concern, and while tall, it's extremely flat.

If I remember correctly, they made a .32 magnum DA/SA prototype. And again, if I remember correctly, it was hideous.