silicosys4
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In the past few days I've seen this jerk scam a few people over on Gunauction.com through 1 or 2 day "buy it now" auctions. At first he was offering stupid prices for guns, then they got wise on some of them. A super grade Winchester M70 went from $400 buy it now to $1150 buy it now for example.
A few of the hints are:
1. Too good to be true prices, in this case this was a buy it now of $450
www.gunauction.com
2. Low feedback seller, usually just registered
3. The one positive rating is from a buyer who is also suspiciously new, has no feedback save for the feedback left by the scam seller, and the feedback from the scam seller to the buyer was left 9 minutes after the auction ended, clearly the buyer is also a fraudulent account set up by the scam seller. I've done that, had card in hand, calling the seller as soon as the auction ended, and even an FFL thats johnny-on-the-spot takes 20 minutes to process payment and exchange FFL info, let alone log into gunauction.com and leave feedback.
www.gunauction.com
4. The negative feedback left for the scammer CopeCope2 says it all.
I'm seeing these scams more and more often, even on auction sites that used to be pretty good about keeping this stuff off are seeming to do less and less housekeeping. In this case this scammer looks to have scammed almost $900 out of someone.
I have had good luck staying away from these kinds of scams but unfortunately this one is extremely simplistic and easy to spot. There are far more professional scammers out there that deal in fakery rather than scammery, those can be difficult to vet given the limited time an auction goes for. There are many times I find seemingly great deals for auctions ending soon that appear to be legit but just can't be vetted in the time allowed and I have to let things go by.
Sometimes I find out later that they were legit, sometimes I find out after further research they were not.
In this instance If the scammer weren't so blatant about their misdeeds, I might have bid, but would not have mailed or sent any form of payment without at least speaking with the seller on the phone, getting a name or business and an address, and cross referencing that name and address with either a business license or a county property deed check. If neither gives support to the sellers credibility I will not send payment. I have vetted several questionable sellers this way with good results.
A few of the hints are:
1. Too good to be true prices, in this case this was a buy it now of $450
1903 Rifle
This rifle was manufactured in its original form in June 1918 Which makes the rifle 106 years old. In 1943 a new stock was switched out and the old, sights re
www.gunauction.com
2. Low feedback seller, usually just registered
3. The one positive rating is from a buyer who is also suspiciously new, has no feedback save for the feedback left by the scam seller, and the feedback from the scam seller to the buyer was left 9 minutes after the auction ended, clearly the buyer is also a fraudulent account set up by the scam seller. I've done that, had card in hand, calling the seller as soon as the auction ended, and even an FFL thats johnny-on-the-spot takes 20 minutes to process payment and exchange FFL info, let alone log into gunauction.com and leave feedback.
Savage 111 30-06 .30-06 Springfield
This Rifle is like new as it has not been fired. Rifle is chambered in 30-06 17330057
www.gunauction.com
4. The negative feedback left for the scammer CopeCope2 says it all.
I'm seeing these scams more and more often, even on auction sites that used to be pretty good about keeping this stuff off are seeming to do less and less housekeeping. In this case this scammer looks to have scammed almost $900 out of someone.
I have had good luck staying away from these kinds of scams but unfortunately this one is extremely simplistic and easy to spot. There are far more professional scammers out there that deal in fakery rather than scammery, those can be difficult to vet given the limited time an auction goes for. There are many times I find seemingly great deals for auctions ending soon that appear to be legit but just can't be vetted in the time allowed and I have to let things go by.
Sometimes I find out later that they were legit, sometimes I find out after further research they were not.
In this instance If the scammer weren't so blatant about their misdeeds, I might have bid, but would not have mailed or sent any form of payment without at least speaking with the seller on the phone, getting a name or business and an address, and cross referencing that name and address with either a business license or a county property deed check. If neither gives support to the sellers credibility I will not send payment. I have vetted several questionable sellers this way with good results.
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