Mark_Mark
Member
- Joined
- Jan 9, 2021
- Messages
- 17,995
I’m going to try my new glasses next time for a 20 yard standing shots. They are strong! if that doesn’t work, I’m going old school and pitting a Old Luepold 4x scope on all my 1911’s
Nighthawk Shadowhawk 10mm
- Thread starter vanfunk
- Start date
S.Crockett
Member
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2022
- Messages
- 327
The dispersion of that group indicates you're pulling the trigger left and downward rather than pressing it straight back cleanly.
Pro-Tip: Engage in daily dry-fire practice for at least an hour. Focus on achieving a clean ‘straight-back‘ trigger press that doesn’t disturb the alignment of the sights on the target (sight picture).
More here:
https://www.amazon.com/DryFire-Reloaded-Ben-Stoeger/dp/1542880246
Last edited:
vanfunk
Member
Thanks Crockett! That may very well be the case. I’ve had trouble getting used to the flat trigger on the 10mm; it seems harder for me to get a reliable index vs a curved trigger. Overall I can see the advantages but I don’t have enough time with it yet. I am more accurate with my NHC .45 although the two are essentially the same gun save for trigger and caliber.
tommy.duncan
Member
vanfunk
Member
They’re serious beasts, aren’t they? My 10mm and .45 go with me every time to the range now.
StrykerByte.45
Member
- Joined
- Feb 8, 2022
- Messages
- 278
LOL! What a ripoff. Cant believe how convinced most people are that 10mm is powerful. It is, internal and external ballistics wise. Terminally, not very capable.
S.Crockett
Member
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2022
- Messages
- 327
LOL! ….
Right, the 10mm’s terminal results have proven completely ineffective.
Last edited:
vanfunk
Member
Yes, and my .470 Nitro Express is a peashooter compared to my .460 Weatherby. Clearly your point went way over my head!
StrykerByte.45
Member
- Joined
- Feb 8, 2022
- Messages
- 278
LOL! ….
Right, the 10mm’s terminal results have proven completely ineffective.
View attachment 1203708
This picture has been getting passed for over 10 years. Are there no more examples.
You do know that even a .22LR kills a bear, right? I don't doubt 10mm as a hunting gun. In fact, I would prefer mine a Long Slide with a extended KKM barrel. Maybe then I can reach rated velocities. For Bear Defense, nope! Weight without caliber ain't stopping a bear. 200gn+ are so long, I worry about them tumbling on Bears Skin/Hyde. They wont penetrate if they go sideways. I hear a lot about 10mm caught on the ribs. Any successful very defense stories with a 10 mm really dependent on a lucky shot and most of them were caught in the ribs. Usually the person holding the 10 mm has to get bailed out by someone with something bigger. Magdumps do not count. If you have to mag dump a bear to stop it from ripping you apart, you are already dead. Only one shot drops count. I wouldn't even mag dump people, I only carry that one shot drops.
vanfunk
Member
Hi Strykerbyte:
The original purpose of the thread was to have a discussion about the Nighthawk 10mm, not to debate the relative power of the 10mm. With that said, my personal opinion is that any discussion of handgun “power” is fatally flawed, as no handgun has “power.” For my personal use (home defense and target shooting) I am happy with the performance of the 10mm vs its immediate competition in the .3 and .4 calibers. Your mystification over the popularity of the 10mm seems misapplied in this thread’s context, as no one had made any pronouncements about the caliber’s prowess (or mag dumps?) until you mentioned it. I am curious, though, what you carry that offers “one shot drops” and how you came by this revelation?
The original purpose of the thread was to have a discussion about the Nighthawk 10mm, not to debate the relative power of the 10mm. With that said, my personal opinion is that any discussion of handgun “power” is fatally flawed, as no handgun has “power.” For my personal use (home defense and target shooting) I am happy with the performance of the 10mm vs its immediate competition in the .3 and .4 calibers. Your mystification over the popularity of the 10mm seems misapplied in this thread’s context, as no one had made any pronouncements about the caliber’s prowess (or mag dumps?) until you mentioned it. I am curious, though, what you carry that offers “one shot drops” and how you came by this revelation?
S.Crockett
Member
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2022
- Messages
- 327
Dude, please.
Does nobody bother to do a bit of research anymore before they post? They’re are tons of “10mm stops bear” reports out there. Here are just a few ….
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2022/03/known-cases-of-people-using-10-mm-in.html
https://www.outdoorlife.com/survival/10mm-glock-grizzly-bear-charge/
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/a-new-mexico-bear-attack-finally-stopped-by-a-glock-10mm-pistol/
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/a...rging-brown-bear-at-6-feet-with-10mm-handgun/
I’m still trying to find the link to the online report, but an elk guide armed with a 10mm Sig P220 stopped a black bear attack with a double-tap of Sig V-Crown 180grn 10mm ammo. That personally wouldn’t be my first choice for a “bear load” (heavy 200grn/220grn coated HC would), but it worked for him. They were tracking back to the elk carcass when the bear surprised them and charged the guide and the hunter. Pics were later posted online:
Said guide and his 10mm Sig:
A heart shot:
Obviously, you're completely wrong since the known facts say otherwise.
Plus, the 10mm Gen4 G20 is the current Mil-issue sidearm and cartridge combo for the soldiers of Denmark’s Sirius Sledge Patrol who operate in the arctic wilds of Greenland. They’ve encountered and occasionally have had to dispatch Polar bears, the apex predator of the bruin species.
Last edited:
StrykerByte.45
Member
- Joined
- Feb 8, 2022
- Messages
- 278
I will read through the other links later, but the first link has a few stories and they all prove my point.Dude, please.
Does nobody bother to do a bit of research anymore before they post? They’re are tons of “10mm stops bear” reports out there. Here are just a few ….
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2022/03/known-cases-of-people-using-10-mm-in.html
https://www.outdoorlife.com/survival/10mm-glock-grizzly-bear-charge/
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/a-new-mexico-bear-attack-finally-stopped-by-a-glock-10mm-pistol/
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/a...rging-brown-bear-at-6-feet-with-10mm-handgun/
I’m still trying to find the link to the online report, but an elk guide armed with a 10mm Sig P220 stopped a black bear attack with a double-tap of Sig V-Crown 180grn 10mm ammo. That personally wouldn’t be my first choice for a “bear load” (heavy 200grn/220grn coated HC would), but it worked for him. They were tracking back to the elk carcass when the bear surprised them and charged the guide and the hunter. Pics were later posted online:
Said guide and his 10mm Sig:
View attachment 1203893
A heart shot:
View attachment 1203892
Obviously, you're completely wrong since the known facts say otherwise.
Plus, the 10mm Gen4 G20 is the current Mil-issue sidearm and cartridge combo for the soldiers of Denmark’s Sirius Sledge Patrol who operate in the arctic wilds of Greenland. They’ve encountered and occasionally have had to dispatch Polar bears, the apex predator of the bruin species.
Similar threads
