Costco goes Criminal Protection Zone!

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The other Cincinnati-area Costco is also not posted. Seems odd that this "corporate policy" is not being followed in the back yard of its HQ (greater Seattle [Issaquah]). Maybe the policy is that if a local manager wants to post, HQ will back them.

I like Costco stores, don't like Sam's Club. I hope they don't post here.
 
It seemed like they really didn't want to have that area off limits (of course not, there are lots[b/] of parties this time of year involving beer & wine and they want to sell it to us :D ), but they were trying to warn their customers who might be that they were risking a felony if caught. The lack of signage out front is a good thing IMHO (well lack of signage is always a good thing, I just meant in support of my theory and... oh never mind :uhoh: :p ).
 
Just a single datapoint

I took a hour round trip today at lunch to go to the Durham, NC Costco (oh, the things I'll do for THR :D )

No posting that I could find. Maybe it's there, but it's far from obvious.
 
The other Cincinnati-area Costco is also not posted. Seems odd that this "corporate policy" is not being followed in the back yard of its HQ (greater Seattle [Issaquah]). Maybe the policy is that if a local manager wants to post, HQ will back them.

I like Costco stores, don't like Sam's Club. I hope they don't post here.
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Sighted postings in Ohio so far: Mayfield Heights, Ohio ... coming soon to a store near YOU!

:banghead:
 
The signs posted in the wine section are simply due to ignorance (well, aren't they all). The signs are provided by the Ohio Liquor Board (or whatever they are) and are for use in a Class D establishment (sold by the glass for on-site consumption) and are voluntary even there. They are a warning of what the law is, not a "no guns allowed" notice.
 
Nehemiah Scudder: I bet it's just on Costcos with liquor stores in 'em.
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Nope, it is COMPANY POLICY from HQ.. BUT it's only (so far) posted by very anti-managers, or very anal ones... ;) Ohio and Kansas sightings so far....

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Henry Bowman: The signs posted in the wine section are simply due to ignorance (well, aren't they all). The signs are provided by the Ohio Liquor Board (or whatever they are) and are for use in a Class D establishment (sold by the glass for on-site consumption) and are voluntary even there. They are a warning of what the law is, not a "no guns allowed" notice.
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Exactly, but the one in Mayfied isn't one of these, and it is at the front entrance. Plus the CEO has made it COMPANY POLICY.

Time to get your membership $$$ back, folks! :evil:
 
I've noticed a lot of these signs Christmas shopping. I ended up sending Jared's jewelry an email after their enormous sign stopped me at the door. I let them know about the $900 purchase I made down the street.
 
Remember: Concealed means CONCEALED!
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yah, except the Costco I used to go to in Santa Barbara frisked customers on the way out-to make sure we weren't shoplifting. That's why I quit going there. Besides, who wants to buy a 'membership' for the 'privilege' of spending money in their store anyway?
 
Maybe I'm dense or something...

but I just spent a good half-an-hour searching and browsing their site (not the Corporate Investor stuff though...hugely boring). In any case, I have not been able to independently confirm the existance of this policy. Not that I choose to bring into question anyones motives here, but I would think that after two pages of discussion, someone would have posted a link to the policy. Haven't seen a sign at the one go to here in Texas. There is one at the independently run liquor store next door but it just reminds one of the non-licensed carrying being illegal. If someone will post the the link, I'll up the ante and return about $600 in purchases this month alone before demanding my membership refund. But as they say in Missouri, "Show Me!"
 
They were actually detaining you and placing hand on body without permission?
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On the way out, they go through your bags of items you already purchased, check your receipt, and ask you to open your coat or jacket and look inside. They didn't actually lay hands on you, so I guess technically it wasn't a 'frisk'. :rolleyes: But it's intrusive, and I don't like being treated like a thief.
 
GhostRider66,

"but I just spent a good half-an-hour searching and browsing their site (not the Corporate Investor stuff though...hugely boring). In any case, I have not been able to independently confirm the existance of this policy."

You can look day and night until you're blue in the face be VERY unlikely to find such a thing on a company's web site.

Why do I say that? #1) Neither to Costco, nor any other company (except maybe, and that's a big maybe, banks) considers their CCW policy important to web browsers, and #2) I was personally involved in the effort to identify and get removed the "No CCW" signs from Kroger here in Ohio, and the fact that they were posted was to be found nowhere except on the door to the grocery and in e-mails from "customer service".

We got them removed, thanks to our efforts and the efforts (letters, calls, etc.) from many fellow RKBA people nationwide. In fact, *I* personally got the sign taken down from the local Kroger 2 weeks AFTER the "corporate policy" (which somehow only applied to Ohio) was changed.

Thank God people didn't adopt the mindset (as someone previously did here), that "Oh, it's not in my backyard, so what do I care" or "Besides, what diff would my input make??"

Last thing - I know Lazpash personally, and if Laz tells you something, you can take it to the bank.


BB62
 
Sorry if I offended but I like to have all of the facts before I jump into a fray. What I'm trying to comprehend is how strong this "corporate policy" could possibly be because it seems to be followed at the whim of the individual store and (it seems) by state. It would take nothing (or next to nothing) for them to obtain the proper (legal) signs here in Texas and post them yet they don't seem to have made the effort. Nor do they seem to have posted the more common (although not legally enforceable) ones like the gun with a circle and red X even. It almost seems that the corporation more allows the individual stores or regional managers to make that decision and then the corporation just backs them when they do. Not sure how to fight them except through the boycotts but it's getting near the point where I'm running out of places to buy a lot of things (let alone conveniently or cheaply). I had to give up on caring who is in, directed, produced or wrote a movie or I'd never be able to watch one of those.
 
Ghostrider66,

I was a bit strong, sorry about that. I misread the emotion in your post.

I meant no offense to you, I just wanted to clarify that not all policies are to be found on a company's web site.

As for "corporate" policies, I for one am VERY suspicious when some customer service type says such things - I doubt it comes from the top unless they have enough volume of complaints to where it gets bumped up the ladder and comes back down. So some peon might *say* its a corporate policy just to get you off their back - who needs those armed lunatics in our stores anyway? (joking!!)

As for boycotts - letters and calls TO THE TOP work wonders, especially when you mention their competition. A copy of a receipt from a competitor works much better than simply saying "I'm boycotting you", IMHO.

Ask Lazpash if you want some ideas for how to be effective!


Best,
BB62
 
Maybe I'm dense or something...


but I just spent a good half-an-hour searching and browsing their site (not the Corporate Investor stuff though...hugely boring). In any case, I have not been able to independently confirm the existance of this policy. Not that I choose to bring into question anyones motives here, but I would think that after two pages of discussion, someone would have posted a link to the policy. Haven't seen a sign at the one go to here in Texas. There is one at the independently run liquor store next door but it just reminds one of the non-licensed carrying being illegal. If someone will post the the link, I'll up the ante and return about $600 in purchases this month alone before demanding my membership refund. But as they say in Missouri, "Show Me!"
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Okay, but you have to "work for it" just a bit: https://www.costco.com/CustomerService/EmailUs.aspx?secure=1

Send them an email saying, "GEE, I heard this, and just can't believe it's true! Are all of your stores REALLY off-limits to law abiding members who have a license to carry a firearm???"

Let us know the answer, eh? My guess is it will read verbatim:

Thank you for e-mailing Costco Wholesale.

This is an automated message to confirm receipt of your e-mail.

We received your reply on 12/14/2004 at 9:54:05 AM.

We are currently experiencing a high volume of e-mails at this time and will respond to your message within 4 business days.

Our staff is available to respond to messages during regular business hours, excluding holidays. We will make every effort to send a personalized response to you as quickly as possible.

Thank you,
Costco Wholesale Corporation
[email protected]
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UNLESS my "prediction" is correct, and they have already reversed the policy (I figured by the 23rd ;) I've not yet checked today ;)

I missed MicroCenter's "cavein" by like 6 or 7 days, and Kroger by a month... MicroCenter caved SOONER than I figured and Kroger later.... ;)

Then you'll likely receive THIS:

Dear XXXXXXX,

Thank you for your email to Costco Wholesale.

In reference to your inquiry on our policy disallowing the carrying of
firearms in our warehouse stores.
Costco does not believe that it is necessary for firearms to be brought
into its warehouse stores, except in the case of authorized law
enforcement officers. For the protection of all our members and
employees, we feel this is a reasonable and prudent precaution to ensure
a pleasant shopping experience and safe workplace. Our policy is meant
to protect our members and employees in all warehouses around the world.
This is not a new policy and we do not customize the policy for each
individual city/county/state/country where we do business.
Bringing a firearm into our warehouse does not enhance the shopping
experience. We are sorry the message you are hearing is that "we don't
want you." It is the firearms that we exclude in the warehouses, not the
carriers.


Sincerely,

Elizabeth H.
Member Service Phone Agent
ext.1716
[email protected]
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Again, verbatim, with the POSSIBLE change in the name of the agent ;)
 
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I checked Costco's corporate website and a few other sources:

  1. Weapons prohibitions in stores are not mentioned on the corporate website.
  2. The corporate Code of Ethics and Vendor Code of Ethics read like UN-approved scripts for political and environmental correctness.
  3. The liberal website www.buyblue.org lists Costco as making $208K of political contributions in 2004, 98% of which went to Democrats.
 
I had been thinking about getting a membership and walked through COSTCO the other day. This post makes it easier. I won't be getting any sort of membership from them!

Vote Pro-Gun! We owe it to our kids and grandkids.

straightShot
 
gc70 thanks for the link. When I brought this up to my wife she did not want to leave Costco, but with the donation to the Democrats it will make the move easier :rolleyes: I am going to use that site to our advantage and shop red. Shoot I think I will print that page out and keep it in the car for reference :D
 
Gosh, I'd like to participate in this thread, but Leatherness and I have to get ready to go to BJ's. It's a little farther than COSTCO, but we cancelled our membership there as soon as this policy came to light. I'm sure the commies won't miss the few hundred bucks a month we spend... :cool:

TC
TFL Survivor
 
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