BREAKING: Bush knew about Katrina threat -- and let it happen

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060302/ap_on_go_pr_wh/katrina_video

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Just thought I would Pre-Empt those who are going to post this latest tempest in teapot that will soon be all over the classic news channels.

As I recall, we ALL knew about Katrina. It was all over the weather channel. Diagrams and everything. I admit that I actually let the hurricane happen as well.

Also - anyone doing even a little digging on the subject knows that the Levys were rated for a category 3 hurricane. Hence all the federal tax dollars given to LA over the last several decades to improve their levys.

The real issue is:

A. Why build a city below sea level and between two HUGE bodies of water?
B. Where did all that money go that we gave you to secure your under-water city?
 
Everybody knew Katrina was going to be a disaster (hence the term "natural disaster"). That's why the city was evacuated. Those people who decided not to evacuate suffered the (rather obvious) consequences of their decision. What does any of this have to do with the Federal Government? :confused:

I read another news story about Katrina "refugees" protesting the fact that FEMA is going to stop footing the bill for their hotel rooms. Apparently the "refugees" don't think it's fair that they were only allowed 6 months of freeloading. :barf:
 
The fed response to Katrina (or lack thereof) is one of the major screwups of the admin. Respectfully, the abject incompetence and criminal negligence are not "a storm in a tea cup". "Mistakes were made and we've learned much from them" is simply not good enough to excuse systemic failures caused by arrogance and nepotism.

What the role of the gov should be is indeed an interesting and important discussion to have. However, taking into account there is currently a tax-payer-funded government agency that is specifically tasked to respond to natural disasters, there cannot be any doubt that it failed, and thus did not justify its funding. We can argue whether we should or should not have that "service", but if we have already paid for it, we had better be given our money's worth. And, no, this is no justification for the free-loaders milking the system, as they are well-accustomed to do through welfare already.
 
THIS JUST IN: The Federal government is slow!

Timing is everything.
They want to get everyones attention off the UAE mess so lawmakers can quietly change their positions in the background. Theres also Bush's forign trip to deflate before he gets any positive spin off of it.

Personaly I think the feds are responsable for alot, but theres a limit.
These people slacked off on their local preperations and expected the feds to pull a rabbit out of a hat... then when that didnt happen, it was time to BLAME republicans for everything thats gone wrong in the last 40 years.
You cant know you have a problem, ignore it, then expect someone to ride in from 1000 miles away to save you in a timely manner.

The federal government is not a superhero. Theres a few good reasons why we were not supposed to put all our faith and cash into the thing.
 
Just a reminder of local competence

The mayor knew what was coming as did the Governor and all they did was quiver and shiver.
Inaction and lack of Leadership on their part is not the Feds fault.

I forgot about the racist mayor being a buffoon.

Vick
 

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What's up with the constant renewal of this crud from the media?! If I openly admit on behalf of Bush that the disaster was indeed his fault, will all this BS just simply end and fade away into the abyss once and for all?!

"OK, IT WAS PRESIDENT BUSH'S FAULT, ALL OF IT, FROM THREE YEARS PREVIOUS THE DISASTER UNTIL 30 YEARS AFTER. IT HAPPENED! NOTHING CAN BE CHANGED NOW! A MASSIVE STORM HIT; PEOPLE DIED; A CITY WAS DESTROYED; WHAT IS DONE CANNOT BE UNDONE; LIVE WITH IT! NOW CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON?!"

Let the DU site (and sites alike) perpetuate this topic over and over! I firmly believe we're above that.
 
I suppose the media might consider the President this
little fellow..
Little Dutch Boy, The
by Peter Miller
Dutch legend has it that there was once a small boy who upon passing a dyke on his way to school noticed a slight leak as the sea trickled in through a small hole. Knowing that he would be in trouble if he were to be late for school, the boy pocked his finger into the hole and so stemmed the flow of water. Some time later a passerby saw him and went to get help. This came in the form of other men who were able to effect repairs on the dyke and seal up the leak.

This story is told to children to teach them that if they act quickly and in time, even they with their limited strength and resources can avert disasters. The fact that the Little Dutch Boy used his finger to stop the flow of water, is used as an illustration of self-sacrifice. The physical lesson is also taught: a small trickle of water soon becomes a stream and the stream a torrent and the torrent a flood sweeping all before it, Dyke material, roadways and cars, and even railway tracks and bridges and whole trains.

Good luck. When something as powerful as Katrina was
hits, you just gotta know your 6 is in BIG trouble.
Could the President have done more ? Maybe so, probably
so. But one has to admit Katrina was one bad a**
whirly wind. I know we've learned lessons from it, and I
also know we as gun owners got a BIG heads-up when
it came to the Gov "protecting" us. See how it protected
the older lady by taking her one form of self defense
away ?

On the other hand many citizens really pulled together
and tried to help and are still helping. It's just too bad
the Armed Forces didn't let some who came to help
in.
 
the media is jealous of our conservative super powers

you see, Bush directed Katrina to attack N.O because they are a Democrat stronghold:evil:
 
Gunsmith,

I am surprised you would use the word "conservative" to describe Bush. He is actually a Neo-Conservative, which has nothing to do with the traditional conservative school of thought.

A Neo-Con is a fiscal liberal with an aggressive foreign policy.
 
I don't think I am a closet liberal. I have voted for Republicans since 1980, including George Bush in 2000 and 2004. In fact, I donated money to him in 2000. I am just not so blind that I cannot tell what I am voting for. That is also why nothing he does or says surprises me. I realized all along he was not a conservative, simply the lesser of the evils running.
 
Actually you must be blind because Bush has been exactly like what he said he'd be in the 2000 election, "compassionate conservative". Yeah that ain't the type of conservative I'd rather have and he ain't no Reagan but he's been exactly what he campaigned as and unfortunately he's as conservative a candidate that can be elected in this day and age. Now he did tout a more isolationist foreign policy in the initial campaign, and thankfully after 9/11 he had the common sense to realize that was an idiotic stance and worthless in the new global world we live in whether some of us like it or not.:p
 
Actually you must be blind because Bush has been exactly like what he said he'd be in the 2000 election

I believe in my post immediately prior to yours I said basically the same thing.

I think we both agree he is the lesser of two evils. You appear to be more willing at this point to continue to support him at this point. While I voted for him in 2000 and 2004, there is no way I would vote for him (or anyone cast in his image) in 2008. Enoughs enough.

Campaign Finance Reform, Patriot Act, Medicare Drug Benefits, supporting the AWB, illegal wiretapping, and now the Port fiasco have really got me turned off at this point.
 
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