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Older (pre PC) 627

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I have an opportunity to pick up an older 627. It's a 6 shot w/ an unfluted cylinder and a 6" barrel. Not yet sure of the condition, but I'm going to guess it's at the least "very good".

I can't find anything anywhere on these revolvers. The only 627 I can find any information on at all has been the 8 shot PC model that's currently in production. Anyone know anything about them? What kind of price would be fair, etc?

Thanks.
 
There were a couple of different runs of the six-shot M627. The first run had a six-shot unfluted cylinder and a 5.5" barrel, and dated to 1989. Somewhere around 4,000 were made with a BEK serial number prefix. I believe there was another run with a six-inch barrel. I know there was an M627 and a later M627-0 that was marketed. I think Lew Horton had these made.

These are desirable revolvers due to being six-shot, pre-MIM, and pre-lock, and I have seen them go for as high as $800.
 
$800 seems high until one pays $990 with tax for a PC M627-6 with the lock. On the older revolver, you get the benefit of the serrated grip tangs.
 
Well .... from the "for what it's worth" department, he sent me a small photo of it. Doubt it will help much in identifying the thing though.
 

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I cannot identify the exact model or SKU from the picture.

One thing to consider: Six-shot N-frame cylinders in .357 Magnum have a relatively high amount of rotational inertia due to the relatively small holes bored in the large diameter cylinder. There is a lot of anecodotal evidence that suggests that lots of shooting, especially fast double-action shooting, wears the cylinder bolt notches (which have to stop the cylinder's rotation) in the six-shot .357 Magnum N-frames. This causes the revolver to go out of time.

The six-shot M627, with the unfluted cylinder, has even more cylinder rotational inertia than the older N-frames (like the M27 and M28) that first exhibited the issue. S&W must have thought this was an issue because they increased the length of the bolt stop notches in the cylinder in later builds.

You may wish to look for an older 8-shot version of the revolver so as to get the lighter cylinder.
 
Thanks Scott. Very good to know about the potential for timing issues in a 6 shot .357 N frame. It all makes sense.

I dunno. I'm not really looking for another range gun - I was really only considering this particular one in passing. I was trying to find out how much it was worth for a friend who's going to be selling it. I've gone over what you've told me with him, but he's made me an offer I'm having trouble refusing. Sure is purty. At the very least, I know I'll at least get an opportunity to shoot (and clean) it.

And if I shoot it, I can see what the timing looks like.

And if the timing looks good ...

...sheesh! :rolleyes: Just what I need.

Hey! Can you blame a guy for liking N frames?
 
Update -

Well ... I took it shooting.

And yea ... I bought it. D##n. Didn't need it one little bit. Well - maybe a little. But I should have never taken it to the range. It's my own darn fault.

Sure is purty though* (Yea - pix bin posted b4) -


627-1 5.5" SN BEK5xxx
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* and I've said that before. I'm sure I'll say it again too.
 
I have the very same revolver.....it is a limited run, introduced in 1989 and mfg'd through 1991 , hence...Model of 1989. Will never part with mine. round butt, N-frame,gorgeous fingergroove grips, and stainless steel.......and before I forget, the top strap is checkered like the original M27's were.

Dbergero
 
and before I forget, the top strap is checkered like the original M27's were.
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Yes! I love the checkered top strap -

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/j

EDIT: BTW Dbergero - I only now noticed this was your first post. Welcome to THR!
 
Thanks Janitor, I am new to this board....great site ! What kind of camera are you taking pics with....they're so clear. Also , was your 627 ever fired prior to purchasing ? It appears to be new right out of the box. I picked mine up used, but in excellent shape...no box ! That's OK though because I intend to use it when I can. One should be capabale of shooting some pretty stiff , heavy hitting loads out of this revolver. I hope to shoot some 180gr rems out of it soon. I really would like to take it hunting....probably from a treestand within practical range.
 
dbergero64 - I'm using a Canon 10D. The lens used in both of the photos of the 627 was a 17-40/4 L zoom.

The revolver had been used. It belonged to a bullseye shooter, but I don't think it was at all his primary tool. Note that I kind of burried the face of the cylinder in the shadows in that first photo. :) But ... even though its been used, it's in very nice condition.

P0832177 said:
Some of his other gun work is even better!
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Hmmm. I'm thinking the truth is being stretched a bit here. :) (thanks John)

/j

EDIT: Actually, the 2nd shot may have been a 100 macro. :)
 
You don't really want to. You're the only one (well - the mods see things too) that sees the edit button for your messages. I don't, just as you don't see them in mne. Trust me - over time you'll probably find multiple reasons to be glad it's there. :)

/r
 
I had problems with my 'model of 1989' 627.
It was basically unfired, and whatever little they shot through it, it was definately .38 specials.
It was so tight when I got it that I had a local smith file .0015 off the forcing cone so the gun wouldn't bind up after 40 rounds.
I also had to polish inside the cylinders, and tighten the ejector. If I load with anything faster burning or dirtier than blue dot the cases eject hard.
Mine doesn't appear quite as nice as yours, my checkering is kind of erratic (Like the guy that did it just got back from a long lunch on friday afternoon?) and my factory grips don't fit right....
It fires ok enough, but it gets outshot by a lot of guns that have no business doing so...
It has a LOT of meat in the cylinder, barrel, and forcing cone, and the SA trigger is very good. The DA is a little stiff.
If I tell you what I paid it would make you sick.
They really didn't know what they had. Had.
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caz -

Nice revo. What engineering issue (-0...) is it? I have to admit - I'm thinking the checkering on mine was probably done at a different time of day than yours. As you said - a lot more even. Wierd.

Great wheelgun, eh? I just got back from the range. I had some 158 lswc over 6.3 gn Bullseye. Not "hot", but certainly not a poofy load either. The thing just ate them up. And with that big N frame, felt about like 9mm from a steel framed service pistol. :) And, as with all my other wheel guns, I'm pretty sure it wasn't the limiting factor with my groups. (It was the handloads ... yea ... that's it. The handloads.)

I never nailed down how much it's really been shot, but I don't think it was all that much. Both the single & double action trigger pulls are heavier than my other older S&Ws - about like the new 686 I picked up new about 800 rounds ago.

I think I'm going to have to spend some quality time with this revolver. Needs to be shot.

/j
 
Mine happens to be a -0, IIRC.
That, I can't understand, either.
Wouldn't that be the same as a 627 or a 627 nodash?
Then why stamp the -0 on there? :scrutiny: :confused:
Maybe mine's set up for lead? Mine doesn't shoot jacketed that well, maybe it will shoot lead better. Leadbetter? Bedwetter? (Sorry, I'm tired.)
It didn't even occur to me to try some lead .38s.
 
Good to see other 627-0 model of 89 owners here.

Here's mine

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It's been one of the best shooting 357's that I have shot, the weight does a good gob of reducing felt recoil and it’s very accurate.
 
Man - With the photos of other 627s, this is turning into a great thread! Thanks for sharing these. I love seeing the other copies of this gun. Now I'm starting to wonder which the stock grips are. I thought it was the wooden combats.

caz223 - From what I understand, no. I believe that there was a nodash that preceded your -0. AFIK, there were four versions total ending with the -2. That's all as near as I can tell from looking into it since I started this thread, and I could be way off base.

As I believe I've said much earlier in this thread, I hadn't seen, or even heard of the pre PC 627s before I saw this -1.

/j
 
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