Hey guys, thanks for all the input.
I'm going to go with Al, his prices are right on par with Ade, and he has an actuall california Assult weapon dealer licence, which means that out of state AR lower manufacturers are more willing to do buisness with him.
It turns out that a company who has some good prices on ar lowers that I was looking at buying from earlier will only do buisness with him in my area. I knew about him, but I hadn't pursued it. (title2.com was the company)
His philosopy's are in exactly the right place too.
It seems like 30$ for fees and 25$ for dros per gun is the cheepest that its going to happn without traveling all the way to San Diego.
a few other guys had cheaper adds, but they have yet to get back to me, and those that have gotten back have all been too pricey.
Alan seems like a solid guy, and with three different recomendations independant of eachother (other companys I've talked to about getting guns shipped, and you guys here) I think my trust is well placed.
I still plan on doing buisness with Ade down in OC, he's a good guy, and he has some great prices on a few things. (ar M4 uppers for 88 bucks etc).
thanks guys.
I'll keep you posted