Navy Researching Vomit Beam

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Tuesday, March 06, 2007
Navy Researching Vomit Beam

You never know what's going to land in your mailbox. Last night, I found a weapon that shoots an invisible wall-penetrating beam that makes people so dizzy they fall over. (It can make them puke, too, but I'll get to that in a moment.)

Okay, okay... it was only a description of the device that I came across, going through my (mostly junk) mail. The less-lethal weapon was one of many novelties described in an invitation to the "Navy's 07 'Opportunity Forum" for small businesses.

Invocon, Inc., one of dozens of companies expected to showcase their wares at the forum, says it'll be there to display its "non-lethal, stand-off weapon for military and law enforcement personnel that could ultimately work through walls and other non-metallic structures."

They've even got a Navy contract to develop the thing. I looked up Invocon's contract in the Navy's Small Business Innovative Research database and found this slightly more detailed description of the work:

IVC proposes to investigate the use of beamed RF [radio frequency] energy to excite and interrupt the normal process of human hearing and equilibrium. The focus will be in two areas. (1) Interruption of the mechanical transduction process by which sound and position (relative to gravity) are converted to messages that are processed by the brain. (2) Interruption of the chemical engine which sustains the proper operation of the nerve cells that respond to the mechanical transduction mechanisms referenced in item (1). Interruption of either or both of these processes has been clinically shown to produce complete disorientation and confusion.

Wow! Through the walls? That even beats the Active Denial System -- the pain ray that Noah wrote about the other day. Invocon even touts its device as a "Star Trek hand-held Phaser Weapon set on 'Stun'."

However, rather than causing intense pain, like the Active Denial System, Invocon is advertising a weapon that boasts the ability to go through walls and incapacitate everyone in a room by making them lose their balance. "Second order effects would be extreme motion sickness," the company notes.

Basically, you're safely in your house, an invisible beam hits you, you feel dizzy, and fall over (or puke). Or so goes the promotion:

The benefits of such a weapon would be that in areas of extreme risk to Marine Corps personnel, hostiles could be controlled without loss of life. The weapon effect would be helpful in urban combat where rooms could be subjected to the EPIC stimulus and then subdued without further risk to friendlies or hostiles. Similar technology could be applied to law enforcement operations especially in hostage situations where all the people in a room could be incapacitated without damage and subsequently sorted out as to which are the bad guys and which are the good guys.

Invocon claims they have already held the "first known demonstration" of this technology. You gotta wonder who that lucky employee was.
 
Yep, now instead of killing enemy terrorists who are killing our people, we can knock 'em out and make 'em puke and capture them. Then the Left wing cone heads can work overtime to get them released back to their mommies with a stern lecture encouraging them to to be a good boy.:barf:
 
I other words, it is very similar to the nightly news:D
Actually, I saw something about this, I thought it used ultrasonic waves. RF frequencies, huh.
I know that when I worked in radio there were some people said they felt sick when they got around the transmitter site (100 KW). I always thought it was just looking up at the tower that did it to them.
 
So instead of the armed revolt the political types fear would result from the Great Gun Confiscation, the cops can roll up to your house and render you 'safely' too sick to fight, and simply walk in and ransack the place to relieve you of all your evil weapons (for your own good, of course). And leave with a cheery "Have a nice day"...
 
Wonder how long it will take for someone to develop countermeasures. Every time someone comes up with some sort of super high tech weapon like this, within weeks someone comes out with an easy and cheap way to counteract it.


Maybe something like a set of specially tuned Peltors or something.
 
Actually, this is an old phenomenon accidentally discovered in the late '40s and early '50s when turboprops were being tested.

If I remember correctly, the prototype of a turbopro version of the F-84 put out such powerful ultrasonic sound waves that it induced nausea in anyone within a certain distance of the aircraft when the contra-rotating props were turning at maximum speed.
 
Wonder how long it will take for someone to develop countermeasures. Every time someone comes up with some sort of super high tech weapon like this, within weeks someone comes out with an easy and cheap way to counteract it.

Once again tin foil hats would help :neener:

No really since it would be a metalic barrier between the inner ear and the rest of the brain against the RF waves, a thin metalic barrier would defeat it. Tin foil barriers or even helmets or hats lined with them would likely defeat the ability of the RF waves to penetrate into the necessary part of the body ( as long as the face was shielded as well). A more passive approach of lining rooms or areas like potential bunkers with sheet metal or tin foil, or even using some of the metal based insulation in walls would defeat it. A balaclava or ski mask incorporating metalic fibers would probably greatly diminish or defeat these rays. These signals do not go through metal, so the cheapest metalic liners would defeat them.

Tin foil anyone?
 
Zoogster, if you're right, and we end up fighting at the end of the world, actually wearing tin foil hats, I'm going to be really embarrassed for all of the smack I've talked on the internet all of these years. :D
 
I would not trust myself with one of those.

"My younger brother ate the last piece of pie huh?!" Well, try enjoying it now...ZAAAP ZAP!"

Oh man.
 
Vomit beam? Nothing new about that.

Hillary's been in possession of one for years. She shoots me with it every time I see her:barf: :barf: :barf: .
 
I know how it works, This beam uses an RF signal to project a mental image of Rosie O'donnel naked. I think they have to tone it down, it violates the Cruel and unusual clause in the US, and most statutes of international laws including the hague and geneva conventions internationally. It can only be concidered "less than lethal" if those hit with it don't kill themselves anyway :barf::barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: I wonder if you can innoculate yourself with dramamine and pepto bismol?
 
Aren't RF beams and microwaves pretty synonomous? What we have here is a "Nuke & Puke" option.
 
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