THOMPSON slow motion
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db_tanker
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Very nice. 
Also a nice touch going at the end of the clip on the garand....too bad no sound...PING!
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Also a nice touch going at the end of the clip on the garand....too bad no sound...PING!
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Dr. Dickie
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Very nice.
I notice, yet again, how little rise there is when the Thompson is fired full auto.
I have seen actual WWII footage of soldiers firing the Thompson, and noted that it did not rise up and fly away as it is often said to do on other shows. Perhaps that has to do with the addition of a muzzle brake, but what was shown there was an earlier 1928 version and it still did not just spray all over.
Just yesterday, I watched "Futureweapons," and they were hawking a new SMG that fired .45 ACP and talked about how this one did not walk away from you like the Thompson did.
I gotta find someone that has an actual Thompson and get some trigger time to see for myself.
I notice, yet again, how little rise there is when the Thompson is fired full auto.
I have seen actual WWII footage of soldiers firing the Thompson, and noted that it did not rise up and fly away as it is often said to do on other shows. Perhaps that has to do with the addition of a muzzle brake, but what was shown there was an earlier 1928 version and it still did not just spray all over.
Just yesterday, I watched "Futureweapons," and they were hawking a new SMG that fired .45 ACP and talked about how this one did not walk away from you like the Thompson did.
I gotta find someone that has an actual Thompson and get some trigger time to see for myself.
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DragonFire
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I have a semi-auto Thompson, and there is very recoil at all. Now I know that they have may a couple of changes from the full-auto/military version, but I can't see how the gun would walk away from you.
The Thompson is a heavy gun, and there just isn't enough force from a 45 ACP round. Maybe firing full-auto from the hip, or without the rear stock, or some other way with a light grip, but I just don't see it.
The Thompson is a heavy gun, and there just isn't enough force from a 45 ACP round. Maybe firing full-auto from the hip, or without the rear stock, or some other way with a light grip, but I just don't see it.
Tommygunn
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From what I've been told, the 1928 Thompson pulls up and to the right (when fired right handed; up to left if fired leftie). This is typical for SMGs.
The biggest difference between the semi autos and the full autos is in the bolts.
Nice photography there; 20 round Thompson mag emptied. In reality that would take about 1.5 seconds.
The biggest difference between the semi autos and the full autos is in the bolts.
Nice photography there; 20 round Thompson mag emptied. In reality that would take about 1.5 seconds.
10X
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I shot a Thompson years ago. The local sheriffs office had a 1921 (I believe) with the straight forearm rather than the grip. The whole office and sheriffs posse was there to try the M1s and the Thompson they had. My father was in the posse at the time. They allowed me to shoot as well.
We quickly found out the Thompson rises rapidly in full auto from recoil and/or action motion when you shoulder it like a rifle. The first shot was on target, the second shot about 45 degrees high and the third shot about straight up.
The thing worked best firing from the hip. You could hold down the barrel, if it wasn't too hot. I suspect that is the main purpose of the forward grip on the 1928 shown in the video.
I still remember how heavy the Thompson was.
We quickly found out the Thompson rises rapidly in full auto from recoil and/or action motion when you shoulder it like a rifle. The first shot was on target, the second shot about 45 degrees high and the third shot about straight up.
The thing worked best firing from the hip. You could hold down the barrel, if it wasn't too hot. I suspect that is the main purpose of the forward grip on the 1928 shown in the video.
I still remember how heavy the Thompson was.
Due to its weight, the TSMG rises very little. What happens is that when the gun is fired from the shoulder, there is enough recoil that the shooter's shoulder moves back, pulling the gun back and up. When this tendency is overcome by leaning into the gun, climb is minimal, especially with the Cutts comp.
Guns like the STEN and M3, which have a bolt that is heavy relative to the gun, stay down because the forward slam of the bolt compensates for the rearward motion under recoil. They really do sort of "rock."
Jim
Guns like the STEN and M3, which have a bolt that is heavy relative to the gun, stay down because the forward slam of the bolt compensates for the rearward motion under recoil. They really do sort of "rock."
Jim
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Bart Noir
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I have a friend who once lived in a state that allowed FA weapons. He tried a stunt he had heard about, firing a Tommy Gun with with the stock set squarely against his chin.
He said it was not too bad, if he kept the steel part away from his ligs and it helped to only fire 3-round bursts.
I think that anybody who is aimed at the sky after only a couple-three rounds is not holding that Thompson correctly. Even if it has no compensator.
Bart Noir
He said it was not too bad, if he kept the steel part away from his ligs
and it helped to only fire 3-round bursts.I think that anybody who is aimed at the sky after only a couple-three rounds is not holding that Thompson correctly. Even if it has no compensator.
Bart Noir
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I have had the priviledge of firing Thompsons, a 1928A1 and and a couple of M1A1s.
Neither had ANY issues with muzzle climb. Even without the Cutts Compensator, the M1A1 was fully controllable from the shoulder or hip.
Neither had ANY issues with muzzle climb. Even without the Cutts Compensator, the M1A1 was fully controllable from the shoulder or hip.
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